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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:19 am    Post subject: Parachute Reply with quote

I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me?

These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996.
I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob




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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:25 am    Post subject: Parachute Reply with quote

I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of those options
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On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com (l29delfin(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me?

These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996.
I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob




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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:33 am    Post subject: Parachute Reply with quote

thanks Greg

It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. I prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. The only choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made chute. I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was hoping  to get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the ultimate concern is safety of course
From: Gregory <colyergreg(at)aol.com>
To: "l29-list(at)matronics.com" <l29-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Parachute


I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of those options
Gregory Colyer
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415-531-0970
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On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com (l29delfin(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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 I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me?

These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996.
I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob




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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:26 am    Post subject: Parachute Reply with quote

What altitudes do you fly at?

I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my aircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around 10-12k feet.

Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, without the oxygen.

Regards
Jorgen


From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of delfin
Sent: 25 May 2013 18:33
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thanks Greg

It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. I prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. The only choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made chute. I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was hoping to get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the ultimate concern is safety of course
From: Gregory <colyergreg(at)aol.com (colyergreg(at)aol.com)>
To: "l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)" <l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Parachute


I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of those options
Gregory Colyer

www.AceMakerAirshows.com

415-531-0970

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On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com (l29delfin(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me?

These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996.
I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:36 am    Post subject: Parachute Reply with quote

I don't know how to get the Russian/Czech chutes certified compliant with the FAA here.


From: Jorgen Nielsen (jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za)
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Subject: RE: Parachute



What altitudes do you fly at?

I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my aircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around 10-12k feet.

Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, without the oxygen.

Regards
Jorgen


From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of delfin
Sent: 25 May 2013 18:33
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thanks Greg

It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. I prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. The only choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made chute. I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was hoping to get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the ultimate concern is safety of course


From: Gregory <colyergreg(at)aol.com (colyergreg(at)aol.com)>
To: "l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)" <l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Parachute


I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of those options


Gregory Colyer

www.AceMakerAirshows.com

415-531-0970

Join us on Facebook

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On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com (l29delfin(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me?

These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996.
I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:00 pm    Post subject: Parachute Reply with quote

Just whack a couple of experimental stickers on them Bob! ;>))
Frank

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On May 26, 2013, at 5:34 AM, "ROBERT SCHWARTZ" <schwartzcompany(at)att.net (schwartzcompany(at)att.net)> wrote:

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From: Jorgen Nielsen (jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za)
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To: l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: Parachute



What altitudes do you fly at?

I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my aircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around 10-12k feet.

Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, without the oxygen.

Regards
Jorgen


From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of delfin
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thanks Greg

It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. I prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. The only choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made chute. I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was hoping to get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the ultimate concern is safety of course


From: Gregory <colyergreg(at)aol.com (colyergreg(at)aol.com)>
To: "l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)" <l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Parachute


I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of those options


Gregory Colyer

www.AceMakerAirshows.com

415-531-0970

Join us on Facebook

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On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com (l29delfin(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me?

These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996.
I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:06 pm    Post subject: Parachute Reply with quote

<![endif]--> <![endif]--> <![endif]--> I had an interesting point brought up. If the aircraft is experimental /exhibition (l-29) why would the foreign ejection seat specific chutes not be acceptable as long as they complied with military standards and were repacked every 6 months. Im not sure how to reseach this . These are not for jumping, but only for emergency egress with the seat. any ideas ?
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:17 pm    Post subject: Parachute Reply with quote

Unless they are TSO'd I don't think anyone can legally pack them?

Bill

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[quote] <![endif]--> <![endif]--> <![endif]--> I had an interesting point brought up. If the aircraft is experimental /exhibition (l-29) why would the foreign ejection seat specific chutes not be acceptable as long as they complied with military standards and were repacked every 6 months. Im not sure how to reseach this . These are not for jumping, but only for emergency egress with the seat. any ideas ?
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:35 pm    Post subject: Parachute Reply with quote

Stay seated and FLY THE PLANE.... It would be like putting ejection seats in a Cherockee 6.


I have a set of stock L-29 parachutes I'll make someone a good deal on.

SD737(at)aol.com (SD737(at)aol.com)


In a message dated 5/25/2013 12:37:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, schwartzcompany(at)att.net writes:
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I don't know how to get the Russian/Czech chutes certified compliant with the FAA here.


From: Jorgen Nielsen (jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za)
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To: l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: Parachute



What altitudes do you fly at?

I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my aircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around 10-12k feet.

Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, without the oxygen.

Regards
Jorgen


From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of delfin
Sent: 25 May 2013 18:33
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute





thanks Greg

It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. I prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. The only choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made chute. I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was hoping to get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the ultimate concern is safety of course


From: Gregory <colyergreg(at)aol.com (colyergreg(at)aol.com)>
To: "l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)" <l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Parachute


I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of those options


Gregory Colyer

www.AceMakerAirshows.com

415-531-0970

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On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com (l29delfin(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me?

These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister.   I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996.
I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Parachute Reply with quote

I agree...
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On May 25, 2013, at 4:34 PM, SD737(at)aol.com (SD737(at)aol.com) wrote:

[quote] Stay seated and FLY THE PLANE.... It would be like putting ejection seats in a Cherockee 6.


I have a set of stock L-29 parachutes I'll make someone a good deal on.

SD737(at)aol.com (SD737(at)aol.com)


In a message dated 5/25/2013 12:37:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, schwartzcompany(at)att.net (schwartzcompany(at)att.net) writes:
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I don't know how to get the Russian/Czech chutes certified compliant with the FAA here.


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To: l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: Parachute



What altitudes do you fly at?

I have the Czech parachutes, they do not have the oxygen (neither does my aircraft) but do have the barometric "auto opener" set to open at around 10-12k feet.

Here were I am I don't operate above 20k ft so they are ok as they are, without the oxygen.

Regards
Jorgen


From: owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of delfin
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Subject: Re: L29-List: Parachute





thanks Greg

It has turned into a very complicated issue. If you are going to have hot seats you need the auto inflate option as well as the emergency oxygen. I prefer to maintain the Russian harness system that I am familiar with. The only choice may be to have these features custom added to a USA made chute. I have these PK-29 chutes that appear in great condition and i was hoping to get some use before I had to spend the big bucks . But the ultimate concern is safety of course


From: Gregory <colyergreg(at)aol.com (colyergreg(at)aol.com)>
To: "l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)" <l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Parachute


I'm not sure about strong chutes but my butlers in my T-33 have both of those options


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On May 25, 2013, at 8:19 AM, delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com (l29delfin(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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I am looking for some information about the L-29 parachute system. The Romanian L-29 used the PK-29 chute. I think the Czech and Russian aircraft used the S-3. Can someone confirm that for me?

These are not normal chutes and utilized an internal barometric device to auto open the chute as well as a chute bottom emergency oxygen canister. I am looking at making the seats hot in one of my L-29's. I need to have these functions available. Choices are to have these features added to a USA strong type chute or buy new foreign made chutes (very pricy) or have a material strength test and try to utilize these original chutes from 1996.
I am looking for any CONSTRUCTIVE comments . thanks...bob

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