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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:30 pm Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

I'd like to tap the collective experience of

the list in search of a gizmo that I don't even

know what to call it . . .



I've seen cousins to the 'Chinese finger trap' that

could be slipped over a hose or large wire bundle.

One end of the 'trap' is fitted with a loop of small

cable . . . the same cable that makes up the

cylinder of the device.



When placed over the hose/bundle and tensioned,

it grabs the outside surface over a large area

(essential damage free, low pressure) while

getting a grip on it. The work piece may then

be secured to some suspension point.



I've seen them used to hold up drop cords suspended

from the ceiling. I've 'wandered' through the

Grainger and McMaster catalogs. I'd bet they have

'em if I just knew the name of the beasts!



Any ideas?

   Bob . . .

nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:37 pm Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

I'd bet they have

'em if I just knew the name of the beasts!



Any ideas?



    Duhhh . . . how about 'pulling grips'?

     It's amazing how simple gaps in language

     can cause one to waste so much time!

   Bob . . .

Bob McC

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 258
Location: Toronto, ON

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:52 pm Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

Bob;



They're called "Kellums grips". Actually that is one brand name, but should

provide sources for you. They are made by Hubbell.



Bob McC



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Bob McC

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Location: Toronto, ON

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:56 pm Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

Sorry, spelling error "Kellems" not "Kellums"



Bob McC



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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:06 pm Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

Try this catalogue



http://tinyurl.com/khffnbb



Bob McC



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billp(at)wwpc.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:26 pm Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

They're called "grips". They are also used to hoist coaxial cables up 

towers. You can find them in broadcast and two way radio vendors lists.



Bill



On 7/6/13 1:29 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>



 I'd like to tap the collective experience of

 the list in search of a gizmo that I don't even

 know what to call it . . .



 I've seen cousins to the 'Chinese finger trap' that

 could be slipped over a hose or large wire bundle.

 One end of the 'trap' is fitted with a loop of small

 cable . . . the same cable that makes up the

 cylinder of the device.



 When placed over the hose/bundle and tensioned,

 it grabs the outside surface over a large area

 (essential damage free, low pressure) while

 getting a grip on it. The work piece may then

 be secured to some suspension point.



 I've seen them used to hold up drop cords suspended

 from the ceiling. I've 'wandered' through the

 Grainger and McMaster catalogs. I'd bet they have

 'em if I just knew the name of the beasts!



 Any ideas?

   Bob . . .

nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:04 pm Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

At 04:25 PM 7/6/2013, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



They're called "grips". They are also used to hoist coaxial cables 

up towers. You can find them in broadcast and two way radio vendors lists.



Bill


	


   Yeah, I've used them many times back in my tower

   climbing days. Just had a hard block on the right

   term.



   I want to use some to tether garden hoses to

   a stake next to the hydrant. Our hose bibs

   have timers on them . . . made of plastic.

   One good tug with the hose would break them.

   These basket-woven grips seem like just the

   ticket for grabbing the hose and maintaining

   a bend relief between the stake and hose

   bib.  Thanks guys!

   Bob . . .

jluckey(at)pacbell.net
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

Bob,



I think the name you are looking for is "kellum".  



I used to get them from Hubbell, see:

http://ecatalog.hubbell-wiring.com/ProductInformation/ViewCatalog.aspx?Dest=hubbell-wiring.com/press/catalog/t.pdf&Page=59



here is another reference from google:

http://www.plccenter.com/Shop/KELLEMS/074093514/FNFP?source=GoogleShopping&gclid=COGg3aj_m7gCFUQ6QgodSA4AGg



        From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>

 To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 1:29 PM

 Subject: AeroElectric-List: Looking for (off topic)

  

 

 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>



I'd like to tap the collective experience of

the list in search of a gizmo that I don't even

know what to call it . . .



I've seen cousins to the 'Chinese finger trap' that

could be slipped over a hose or large wire bundle.

One end of the 'trap' is fitted with a loop of small

cable . . . the same cable that makes up the

cylinder of the device.



When placed over the hose/bundle and tensioned,

it grabs the outside surface over a large area

(essential damage free, low pressure) while

getting a grip on it. The work piece may then

be secured to some suspension point.



I've seen them used to hold up drop cords suspended

from the ceiling. I've 'wandered' through the

Grainger and McMaster catalogs.  I'd bet they have

'em if I just knew the name of the beasts!



Any=               - MATRONICS WEB FORUMSList ====

 

 

  

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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:35 pm Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

Bob,

         

         Might suggest a               less expensive solution. Use                 some cotton line and tie                     some half hitches, or a taut line hitch or two,                            or a prussic knot or two around the                               hose. Perhaps                                 anchor the initial bite with a cinch knot.  While they may need                                         renewing every few                                           years, the overall cost of                                             ownership I                                               expect will be lower over                                               your and                                                 your children's lifetimes.

                                                   

                                                   do not                                                       archive

                                                         	  Quote: 	
		  Raymond Julian

Kettle River, MN.



"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,

and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine 	
       On 07/06/2013 06:04 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:

     

     [quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L.       Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com> (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)       

       

       At 04:25 PM 7/6/2013, you wrote:       

        	  Quote: 	
		  --> AeroElectric-List message posted         by: Bill Putney <billp(at)wwpc.com> (billp(at)wwpc.com)         

         

         They're called "grips". They are also used to hoist coaxial         cables up towers. You can find them in broadcast and two way         radio vendors lists.         

         

         Bill         

       	
       

         Yeah, I've used them many times back in my tower       

         climbing days. Just had a hard block on the right       

         term.       

       

         I want to use some to tether garden hoses to       

         a stake next to the hydrant. Our hose bibs       

         have timers on them . . . made of plastic.       

         One good tug with the hose would break them.       

         These basket-woven grips seem like just the       

         ticket for grabbing the hose and maintaining       

         a bend relief between the stake and hose       

         bib.  Thanks guys!       

       

       

         Bob . . . 

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:50 pm Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

At 06:35 PM 7/6/2013, you wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Bob,



 Might suggest a less expensive solution. Use some cotton line and tie some half hitches, or a taut line hitch or two,  or a prussic knot or two around the hose. Perhaps anchor the initial bite with a cinch knot.  While they may need renewing every few years, the overall cost of ownership I expect will be lower over your and your children's lifetimes.

 	


   Funny you should mention that. Off the shelf

   versions are pretty pricey given that they

   are made from 20-cents worth of wire rope.

   

   Saw a youtube presentation on DIY finger

   traps. I deduced that about 15 minutes and

   four, 3-foot pieces of rope woven over the

   appropriate dowel would produce a clone

   of such devices. Thought about just using

   synthetic cordage but I got a really good deal on

   some 1/16" stainless cable off eBay. This

   will make a good 'shop project' . . . not

   perhaps for the children but certainly for

   the grand kids.



   Thanks!



 

   Bob . . .    [quote][b]

lm4(at)juno.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:22 am Post subject: Looking for (off topic)

Bob,

I don't recall the name either. But, if you check with an elevator 

construction firm I'm sure they will have a name for this part.

They use them to suspend the hoistway cables in the shaftway.

Larry

On Jul 6, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I'd like to tap the collective experience of

 the list in search of a gizmo that I don't even

 know what to call it . . .

 

 I've seen cousins to the 'Chinese finger trap' that

 could be slipped over a hose or large wire bundle.

 One end of the 'trap' is fitted with a loop of small

 cable . . . the same cable that makes up the

 cylinder of the device.

 

 When placed over the hose/bundle and tensioned,

 it grabs the outside surface over a large area

 (essential damage free, low pressure) while

 getting a grip on it. The work piece may then

 be secured to some suspension point.

 

 I've seen them used to hold up drop cords suspended

 from the ceiling. I've 'wandered' through the

 Grainger and McMaster catalogs. I'd bet they have

 'em if I just knew the name of the beasts!

 

 Any ideas?

 

 

  Bob . . . 

 

 

 

 

 


	


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