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saafbusiness(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:24 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

Guys,



I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not remember the result and general consensus in the end.

My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060 pounds. There was a lot of discussion about that number being changed to a higher number.

 



Just curious if anyone knows.

I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a few pounds 

Thanks



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scott(at)s-f-x.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:36 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

I am just increasing my rating for more max weight. It was 960lbs if your kit was 249 or less, if a higher number it would be 1060lbs. It seems a composite spar was used on later models. Source - UK LAA TADS for Pulsar XP. 

Hope that helps.



Scott MacIntyre



UK +44 7860 208432

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scott(at)s-f-x.com (scott(at)s-f-x.com)

On 29 Aug 2013, at 12:21, Mark Fox <saafbusiness(at)gmail.com (saafbusiness(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]Guys,



I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not remember the result and general consensus in the end.

My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060 pounds. There was a lot of discussion about that number being changed to a higher number.

 



Just curious if anyone knows.

I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a few pounds 

Thanks



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myesig.com 





 



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kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:00 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

The XP is definitely 1060 lb the III is  1200lb the II I'm not sure ?

  

 K'd

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kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:21 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

Scott,

      MAUW  -   Wooden Spars with Capping to the end of the Spar  - 960lb  -   Composite Spars on XP 1060lb -  Don't  automatically go by serial numbers it is the construction that counts & what  was included in that KIT.

  

 K'd

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scott(at)s-f-x.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:41 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

Yes, common sense prevails - I have a composite spar but it seems the guy that made the kit went for the lower weight just because he wasn't aware of the later spec. 

Thanks for helping make this point clearer. 





Scott MacIntyre



On 29 Aug 2013, at 14:18, "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za (kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za)> wrote:

[quote]       Scott,

      MAUW  -   Wooden Spars with Capping to the end of the Spar  - 960lb  -   Composite Spars on XP 1060lb -  Don't  automatically go by serial numbers it is the construction that counts & what  was included in that KIT.

  

 K'd

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kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:00 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

What do your manuals say  ?

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simon(at)design24.org.uk
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:08 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

Hi Scott,

 

At the time the kit was built, they had just introduced the composite spar and Aero Designs had updated their brochure for the XP - (960 crossed out and 1060 written in biro!)

 

The PFA at the time had not approved this and so to save time getting into the air, Malcolm went with the original 960. It should only be a formality to up-rate the figure â€“ He and I just never got around to it! It definitely has the composite spar and also the slightly bigger rudder â€“ maybe XPs had this.

 

Looking forward to seeing her airborne again soon J

 

Simon. Â 

 

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Sent: 29 August 2013 14:40

To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Gross Take off Weight

 

Yes, common sense prevails - I have a composite spar but it seems the guy that made the kit went for the lower weight just because he wasn't aware of the later spec. 



 



Thanks for helping make this point clearer. 



 



Scott MacIntyre

 



On 29 Aug 2013, at 14:18, "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za (kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za)> wrote:

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Scott,



     MAUW -   Wooden Spars with Capping to the end of the Spar - 960lb  -   Composite Spars on XP 1060lb -  Don't automatically go by serial numbers it is the construction that counts & what was included in that KIT.



 



K'd

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ccoulter(at)wavecable.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:13 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

No, the weight was not increased.  The Series II had a 

higher gross as did the III.



Clarke



On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 07:21:44 -0400

  Mark Fox <saafbusiness(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Guys,

 

 I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can 

not remember the

 result and general consensus in the end.

 

 My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross 

weight of 1060 pounds.

 There was a lot of discussion about that number being 

changed to a higher

 number.

 

 Just curious if anyone knows.

 

 I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they 

put on a few pounds 

 

 Thanks

 

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sollymelyon(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:45 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

Hi Guys,

The II and the III are the same airplane structurally, both had a 

GW of 1200 lb

Solly Melyon

AeroMax Aviation

www.aeromaxaviation.com

323.841.4822

     

   From: HUGH COULTER <ccoulter(at)wavecable.com>

 To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com 

  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:12 AM

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 --> Pulsar-List message posted by: "HUGH COULTER" <ccoulter(at)wavecable.com (ccoulter(at)wavecable.com)>



No, the weight was not increased.  The Series II had a higher gross as did the III.



Clarke



On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 07:21:44 -0400

 Mark Fox <saafbusiness(at)gmail.com (saafbusiness(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Guys,

 

 I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not remember the

 result and general consensus in the end.

 

 My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060 pounds.

 There was a lot of discussion about that number being changed to a higher

 number.

 

 Just curious if anyone knows.

 

 I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a few pounds 

 

  Thanks

 

 -- 

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 321-626-4786]<http://myesig.com/esig/link-174057.php><http://myesig.com/esig/link-174063.php><http://myesig.com/esig/link-174061.php><http://myesig.com/esig/link-174062.php>

 

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leubanks(at)sunflower.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:14 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

I have a sales brochure that is pre XP and was  intended for the 582 version only and it shows a fiberglass spar, wood  skins  and a gross weight of 900 pounds. Unfortunately the brochure is not  dated but was fairly expensive to produce as it is done similar to a magazine  with about 12 pages.

 Larry

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leubanks(at)sunflower.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:31 am Post subject: Gross Take off Weight

For what it's worth I have another later sales  brochure created after the first 912 version was built and it has a picture of  the ill fated N912XP on one side. It shows a gross weight for the 582 Pulsar as  1000 pounds and the Pulsar XP(912) as 1060. I believe the difference here is  that this was after the fiberglass skins were added to both models.

 Larry

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