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		Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland. Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:21 am    Post subject: Kolbs on Open Trailers | 
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 << The problem was on an open trailer the wind moving across a backwards
 Kolb beats up the tail feathers. I guess it is the reason that seagulls
 always stand Beak to the wind. Steve B. >>
 
 Steve, -
 
 You are absolutely correct: Beak to the wind.  
 
 If done right, our Kolbs travel just fine for long distances on open
 trailers.  I trailered my Mark-3 to and from Monument Valley last May, 7
 hours driving time each way.  My trailer is a simple, one axle flatbed, 22
 feet long.  My Kolb is secured pointing forward on the trailer.  As long as
 you secure everything (i.e., flaps & ailerons not flapping in the wind,
 wings & tail boom supported, etc.), these Kolbs can endure prolonged open
 trailer transporting without problems.  
 
 Another benefit of open trailering: You get LOTS of looks from the other
 motorists!  (They know a fun thing when they see it.)
 
 But ... I think I want to FLY my plane there next year!
 
 Dennis Kirby
 N93DK, "Magic Bike"
 Cedar Crest, NM
 
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		jeepacro(at)cox.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Kolbs on Open Trailers | 
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				If you can I would like to see a picture of it on the trailer and a few of the key attach points.  I will be doing the same thing.  Thanks in advance
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 Rob.
 
 ---- Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil> wrote: 
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  << The problem was on an open trailer the wind moving across a backwards
  Kolb beats up the tail feathers. I guess it is the reason that seagulls
  always stand Beak to the wind. Steve B. >>
  
  Steve, -
  
  You are absolutely correct: Beak to the wind.  
  
  If done right, our Kolbs travel just fine for long distances on open
  trailers.  I trailered my Mark-3 to and from Monument Valley last May, 7
  hours driving time each way.  My trailer is a simple, one axle flatbed, 22
  feet long.  My Kolb is secured pointing forward on the trailer.  As long as
  you secure everything (i.e., flaps & ailerons not flapping in the wind,
  wings & tail boom supported, etc.), these Kolbs can endure prolonged open
  trailer transporting without problems.  
  
  Another benefit of open trailering: You get LOTS of looks from the other
  motorists!  (They know a fun thing when they see it.)
  
  But ... I think I want to FLY my plane there next year!
  
  Dennis Kirby
  N93DK, "Magic Bike"
  Cedar Crest, NM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   
   
  
  
 
 
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		GeoR38
 
 
  Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 60 Location: The Villages, fl
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				 Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Kolbs on Open Trailers | 
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				In a message dated 6/14/2006 3:21:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil writes:
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 << The problem was on an open trailer the wind moving across    a backwards
 Kolb beats up the tail feathers. I guess it is the reason that    seagulls
 always stand Beak to the wind. Steve B. >>
 
 Steve,    -
 
 You are absolutely correct: Beak to the wind.  
 
 If done    right, our Kolbs travel just fine for long distances on    open
 trailers.  I trailered my Mark-3 to and from Monument Valley last    May, 7
 hours driving time each way.  My trailer is a simple, one axle    flatbed, 22
 feet long.  My Kolb is secured pointing forward on the    trailer.  As long as
 you secure everything (i.e., flaps & ailerons    not flapping in the wind,
 wings & tail boom supported, etc.), these    Kolbs can endure prolonged open
 trailer transporting without    problems.  
 
 Another benefit of open trailering: You get LOTS of    looks from the other
 motorists!  (They know a fun thing when they see    it.)
 
 But ... I think I want to FLY my plane there next    year!
 
 Dennis Kirby
 N93DK, "Magic Bike"
 Cedar Crest,  NM
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  My 2 cents:    I dragged my firestar to The Villages Fla  with my son's ford pickup pullin  a 2 wheel boat trailer modified (by me  and my son) last year during the horrible hurricane season and naturally  selected the timing DURING one of them....Jean, I think....you know, the one  that was soooooo big that it covered the entire state!!!...... and was slow  moving to boot! Lotsa side pressure on this open trailer and my poor stressed  out plane..... haven't flown it yet.
   
  I also was proud of my creation with an electric hoist for $50 from Harbor  Freight....works great btw, and built up platforms on the back by all weather  wood.....my son LOVES to work in wood...and the plane was dragged up ramps  backwards to a hinged stanchion which when one pulled the cord, would come up  and cradle the boom on its carpet, and hold it up off the tail wheel. The  backwards wings were noproblem at all as they were covered with a nonpenetrating  $12 canvas like tarp and sewed masculinely on one side. Masculine means that the  stitches were at least 3/4 inch with heavy thread....cord was more  like it. Only took an hour to sew it and it totally closed air off from  entering the area of the wingtips and tail. MORE CREATIVITY!.........YEAH!
   
  
  But I would never do it again as the Hurricane was soooooo  unrelenting that the stresses on the airframe had to be gross, as the one wheel  left the pavement 3 times with the crosswinds hitting the wings. The rest  of the Firestar was wrapped with plastic wrap btw.
   
  The new thing here is the cross wind forces,,,,, they were unhealthy at  least!!
   
   
  George Randolph
  Firestar driver from the Villages, Fl
   
 
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		planecrazzzy Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Kolbs on Open Trailers | 
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				Firestar on Trailer... 22 ft plane on a 10 ft Trailer...
 
  It pulls great, no problems....
 
 Gotta Fly...
 Mike in MN / N381PM
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject: Kolbs on Open Trailers | 
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				Do you have a picture of how you have the Boom Tube supported.  Pete
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: Kolbs on Open Trailers | 
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				This is how the boom tube is supported...The saddle pivots....
 
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