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Paul Petty



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: sport pilot Reply with quote

Hey guys,

Can a sport pilot fly an EAB aircraft as long as it meets the LSA limits i.e. gross weight, speed ,HP, fixed gear prop ect???????


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: sport pilot Reply with quote

Absolutely! I'm doing right now.

Ms Dixie will be well within LSA requirements.

Ralph Burlingame
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Hey guys,

Can a sport pilot fly an EAB aircraft as long as it meets the LSA
limits i.e. gross weight, speed ,HP, fixed gear prop ect???????

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: sport pilot Reply with quote

Paul,
Yes. You would need a Sport Pilot License to fly the Experimental
Amateur Built airplane. You would have the normal Class B type airspace
restrictions, trip distance restrictions, etc., and the EAB airplane would
have its requirements, too. As you mentioned, things like....fixed gear,
fixed prop,
max gross limitations, max cruising speed, etc.
Mike in SW
Utah
PS. And beyond the "required" part, it makes just plain good sense to have
at least a sport pilot license. The fact is, most EAB type aircraft (MkIII,
Kolbra's, Xtra's, etc.) will spend a fair amount of time landing at a lot of
local airports. There's a lot that the "pilot" of that EAB airplane should
know in order to be safe, and not endanger himself and the other GA types
out there. Things like; correct radio proceedure, proper flight ettiquette
entering for entering an airport traffic pattern, and a host of a bunch of
other things. Or you could just go without a radio, and land at private
strips, and not sweat it.
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Hey guys,

Can a sport pilot fly an EAB aircraft as long as it meets the LSA limits
i.e. gross weight, speed ,HP, fixed gear prop ect???????

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: sport pilot Reply with quote

Thanks Ralph,Mike,

I plan to get the sport pilot ticket then go on to PPL and go from there. I have 36 hrs logged with a CFII and was just before doing my cross country solos before we sold our cessna 150 and I got major involved in Ms. Dixie. As you may or mat not know my father-n-law and bro-n-law are both corporate pilots and CFII's. I personally have over 100 hrs in alot of different type aircraft but cont consider myself "safe" without much more training. My plan is to finish this Kolbra, then get back into training heavy while pops and the rest of the gang do the flight testing and tweking. My brother-n-law will most likely get me back current in a 172xp that he has access to. He is a good pilot but not the brightest (mechanically), the other night his curiosity got the best of him and he picked up the hose that goes to the static port and yes you guessed it "BLEW" into it Rolling Eyes Dont think he hurt my instruments but it sure got my attention!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: sport pilot Reply with quote

NO !!!!

A Light Sport pilot can only fly an experimental actually registered as light sport by the builder.

If you want to fly a regular non-light sport registered aircraft you will need a Private Pilot Lic or better!!!

I have experimentals that meet the LSA requirements but can not fly them with a Light sport lic until I register these aircraft as Light Sport Experimentals.

But A Private Pilot Lic does allow you to fly a LSA.

Ray


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: sport pilot Reply with quote

http://www.sportpilot.org/learn/final_rule_synopsis.html

" [The Sport Pilot rule] Allow[s] sport pilots to fly vintage and production aircraft (standard airworthiness certificate) that meet the definition of a light-sport aircraft."

"Aircraft with a standard airworthiness certificate that meet above specifications may be flown by sport pilots. However, the aircraft must remain in standard category and cannot be changed to light-sport aircraft category. Holders of a sport pilot certificate may fly an aircraft with a standard airworthiness certificate if it meets the definition of a light-sport aircraft."

http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=16

Question :
Can I fly an Experimental Amateur-Built (homebuilt) aircraft as a sport pilot? Answer :
Yes, as long as the aircraft meets the definition of a light-sport aircraft. (Ref: 14 CFR Part 1.1)

On 3/30/07, jb92563 <jb92563(at)yahoo.com (jb92563(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:[quote] --> Kolb-List message posted by: "jb92563" <jb92563(at)yahoo.com (jb92563(at)yahoo.com)>

NO !!!!

A Light Sport pilot can only fly an experimental actually registered as light sport by the builder.

If you want to fly a regular non-light sport registered aircraft you will need a Private Pilot Lic or better!!!

I have experimentals that meet the LSA requirements but can not fly them with a Light sport lic until I register these aircraft as Light Sport Experimentals.

But A Private Pilot Lic does allow you to fly a LSA.

Ray

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: sport pilot Reply with quote

A aircraft does not need to be registered as a light sport to be flown by a
Light Sport Pilot. It only needs to qualify as a light sport. For example an
original J3 Cub can be flown by a light sport licensed pilot without any
registration changes.

I think the confusion started when some people tried to lower the maximum
gross weight on a certified aircraft to make it qualify as a light sport.
The FAA ruled that once certified a certified aircraft it can't be changed
to get it to qualify as a light sport.

Rick Neilsen
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: sport pilot Reply with quote

Wow, I stand corrected......thats great news.

I thought for certain that the FAA would make it tougher so I assumed the worst.

The key word there is "Qualify" as opposed to registered!

Thanks for clearing that up.

Ray


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: sport pilot Reply with quote

Attached is a .pdf file from a chart I got from EAA that summarizes many of the distinctions among the various classes of aircraft/vehicles, airworthiness certificates, maintenance etc that should be of interest to folks flying Kolbs or other light weight flying machines. This not the rules for what qualifies as an LSA which I think we all have comitted to memory, but rather most of the other things that are pertinent to the subject. I keep it handy 'cuz my memory ain't what it used to be.

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