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bud27(at)bellsouth.net
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 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: Real Men! Real Women! and REAL TAIL DRAGGERS! |
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The advantages/disadvantages, piloting skills, manliness factors, and other
related (or unrelated) of tailwheels versus training wheels...I mean nose
wheels...have all been discussed on the RV lists many times in the past, and
I do not wish to re-open those old threads. From a PERSONAL point of view, I
have but one word in response: WIMP!  LOL
Seriously, to each their own...the -7A is a very fine airplane
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gmcjetpilot
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: Real Men! Real Women! and REAL TAIL DRAGGERS! |
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Facts:
Its call traditional gear, (the term tail dragger is kind of new term since we got the planes with training wheels on the front. 
Nose draggers where known as Tricycle gear, like that first three wheeler you peddled when you where still making dodo in your drawers.
RV model-A's: cost more, little slower, harder to build and structure takes cockpit space. Add some concern about the nose gear acting like a pole to a pole vaulter, a spatula flipping a pancake.
No evidence that the trike has more cross wind capability, but if you can land that A model in a 30 kt cross wind, U R DA MAN. However I doubt you really landed in more the 30 total kts of wind much less 30 kts cross wind component. (any RV would have issues with 30 kts x-wind.)
We know that the tail wheel may take a tad more skill, therefore the bigger balls.
Both are planes thus great.
George RV-4/RV-7/B757
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rocketbob(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: Real Men! Real Women! and REAL TAIL DRAGGERS! |
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Coming home from SNF 2004, we landed on our airpark on runway 18. Wind from nearby AWOS was from 250 at 29KTS gusting 38KTS. I remember it quite vividly. I started on the right side of the runway and had the right wingtip almost dragging the grass (I was watching it out of the corner of my eye.) Figured I'd try it once and if it didn't go well then I'd go around and to the nearby airport with runway 23 into the wind. Turned out to be a non-event, but the pucker factor was high. Ended up towards the left side of the center of the runway with full right aileron and lots of right rudder, half flaps. This was in my "traditional gear" RV-6.
Doubt if you want but I have no reason to lie. The airplane is capable of doing it.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
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On 4/6/07, gmcjetpilot(at)yahoo.com (gmcjetpilot(at)yahoo.com) <gmcjetpilot(at)yahoo.com (gmcjetpilot(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:[quote] Facts:
Its call traditional gear, (the term tail dragger is kind of new term since we got the planes with training wheels on the front.
Nose draggers where known as Tricycle gear, like that first three wheeler you peddled when you where still making dodo in your drawers.
RV model-A's: cost more, little slower, harder to build and structure takes cockpit space. Add some concern about the nose gear acting like a pole to a pole vaulter, a spatula flipping a pancake.
No evidence that the trike has more cross wind capability, but if you can land that A model in a 30 kt cross wind, U R DA MAN. However I doubt you really landed in more the 30 total kts of wind much less 30 kts cross wind component. (any RV would have issues with 30 kts x-wind.)
We know that the tail wheel may take a tad more skill, therefore the bigger balls.
Both are planes thus great.
George RV-4/RV-7/B757
Looking for earth-friendly autos?
Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. [quote][b] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com [quote][b]
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: Real Men! Real Women! and REAL TAIL DRAGGERS! |
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So, why then art thou still aviating in an aerial vehicle with a training wheel up front, an aerial vehicle which would also have problems with a 30kts x-wind?
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lsbrv7a(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: Real Men! Real Women! and REAL TAIL DRAGGERS! |
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Bob - How was it to taxi? I do not have much experience with conventional landing gear.
My Grumman AA1C was hard to taxi when the winds were above 25kts.
BTW ATC called out 40 gusting to 45 when I was on final with the Bonanza yesterday. I taxied slowly, and the V-tail does not seem to weather vane much.
"Bob J." <rocketbob(at)gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Coming home from SNF 2004, we landed on our airpark on runway 18. Wind from nearby AWOS was from 250 at 29KTS gusting 38KTS. I remember it quite vividly. I started on the right side of the runway and had the right wingtip almost dragging the grass (I was watching it out of the corner of my eye.) Figured I'd try it once and if it didn't go well then I'd go around and to the nearby airport with runway 23 into the wind. Turned out to be a non-event, but the pucker factor was high. Ended up towards the left side of the center of the runway with full right aileron and lots of right rudder, half flaps. This was in my "traditional gear" RV-6.
Doubt if you want but I have no reason to lie. The airplane is capable of doing it.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
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rocketbob(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: Real Men! Real Women! and REAL TAIL DRAGGERS! |
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Hi Sherman, I got on the brakes fairly hard to get slowed down as fast as I could, so I taxiied in at a very slow speed with full right aileron. I don't really remember weathervaning much, but I do remember being very happy that I was able to make that landing, the ride home was on the borderline of being painful. It was so bumpy on the way down from altitude and down low that I had to slow down to about 130KTS about 50 miles out, which I don't have to do often being a flat-lander.
To be honest flying a tailwheel airplane has become second nature to me, I don't put much thought into where the little wheel is. I've flown the A models and to be honest, never felt like they were any easier or took less effort to land. Just my .$.02.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
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On 4/10/07, Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a(at)yahoo.com (lsbrv7a(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:[quote] Bob - How was it to taxi? I do not have much experience with conventional landing gear.
My Grumman AA1C was hard to taxi when the winds were above 25kts.
BTW ATC called out 40 gusting to 45 when I was on final with the Bonanza yesterday. I taxied slowly, and the V-tail does not seem to weather vane much.
"Bob J." <rocketbob(at)gmail.com (rocketbob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Coming home from SNF 2004, we landed on our airpark on runway 18. Wind from nearby AWOS was from 250 at 29KTS gusting 38KTS. I remember it quite vividly. I started on the right side of the runway and had the right wingtip almost dragging the grass (I was watching it out of the corner of my eye.) Figured I'd try it once and if it didn't go well then I'd go around and to the nearby airport with runway 23 into the wind. Turned out to be a non-event, but the pucker factor was high. Ended up towards the left side of the center of the runway with full right aileron and lots of right rudder, half flaps. This was in my "traditional gear" RV-6.
Doubt if you want but I have no reason to lie. The airplane is capable of doing it.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject: Real Men! Real Women! and REAL TAIL DRAGGERS! |
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Bob,
I can hardly wait for when 130 kts is "slowing down". Just gotta get this thing finished.
John
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