netmaster15(at)juno.com
Guest
|
 Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: Points of logic by Mark and Jill |
 |
|
I have followed the thread of pattern conflict and formation procedure .
Let me offer an observation. The submissions by Mark and Jill are good
examples of pure and good unbiased logic --free of snobbery, free of
the arrogance born of a superiority complex and a "we-they'"
perspective. These submissions are refreshing in an otherwise field of
snobbery to the point of arrogance. The goals of RPA are lofty and well
designed to promote pilot proficiency, good operating procedure and
safety. Some vociferous luminaries within the organization, however,
appear to have evolved to the point of a presumption of command ownership
of the national airspace. There must be room in their culture to
acknowledge the rightful entitlement of others to use the airspace on an
equal standing., even if faced with a less than stellar performance by
a bone headed, low time , Cessna 152 driver. By all means, continue the
pursuit of training toward the point of excellence but keep a measure of
tolerence and a sharp eye out for the unexpected actions of those of
lesser judgement and experience.
Pappy Goolsby has publicly stated that I am"ölder than dirt",
perhaps in the eyes of some, but I'd have to be this old to possess a
license which requires two pages to list all the type ratings and over
40,000 hours (by the grace of God) without hurting anyone or bending any
tin. If we
are to evolve at all, let's shed the blinders of self rightious
superiority . The next time you hear good callouts from a spam can
driver, go up to him when he's tying down and compliment him on his
procedure. He'll appreciate it, you'll feel good and you will have
created a very attentive joint user of the airspace from that point on.
Cliff Umscheid, YAK 50
.
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:00:34 -0700 Jill Gernetzke <jill(at)m-14p.com>
writes:
| Quote: |
Group,
I have been reading the discussion on the near misses this morning.
First off, I am not military. I am not a high time pilot either.
My
first solo flight was into Bradley Sky Ranch in North Pole, AK - a
gravel airstrip, uncontrolled field. As I was landing my Aeronca
Chief
with no radios or lights, there was another aircraft landing the
other
way. Having no option for a go around, I chopped power, landed and
pulled the airplane off into the weeds. When I worked out at Gesoco
in
Swanton, we had a group of ultra-lighters known as the "Fright
Boys".
One had to ALWAYS be on alert. Every field I flew off of in Florida
was uncontrolled: Kay Larkin, Eagle's Nest, Flagler. I can assure
you
that "spammers" do not know what you guys are talking about. My
follow
up is "Why should they???". I may piss some people off here, but I
see
a level of arrogance in thinking that "civilians" or "Spammers" must
tow the line when you are in town. I am trying to play devil's
advocate, here. If a group of you travel to Shakhty, Russia, go to
the
outdoor market and ask for a fresh loaf of rye bread in English,
should
that little old lady with the babushka on her head be expected to
understand you? As with any good relationship, clear communication
is
the key. These "spammers" right or wrong were probably doing what
they
always do at that airport. I think a bit of prudence could go a
long
way. I think Mark has made some very good points.
The other night we had a deputy speaking to a citizen's group. He
made
the comment about "you civilians". Carl quickly asked him what
branch
of the military the sheriff's department belonged to. The deputy's
response is that was they way they were trained to think. Joe
Citizen
does not see it that way and he is correct. I don't think you are
doing anyone a service by looking down your noses at "spammers".
Remember, you were there once and probably did some pretty dumb
things.
In conclusion, I would like to ask what would have been the probable
legal outcome had there been a midair in either situation? Who
would
have been at fault? How much liability does the group and
individuals
have in this situation? Is there any legal counsel with RPA that
would like to offer up an opinion?
Jill
M-14P, Incorporated
4905 Flightline Drive
Kingman, AZ 86401 -7417
(928)-681-4400
Fax(928)681-4404
www.m-14p.com
|
| | - The Matronics Yak-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List |
|
|
|
Get Email Distribution Too!
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
