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		GrummanDude
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:36 am    Post subject: 4371 magneto | 
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				About a month ago I got a new 4371 to install on a customers plane.  
 When I installed the nut, it locked up the whole impulse coupling 
 mechanism.  I took some measurements on the new one and compared it to 
 the old one.  It had been manufactured wrong.  When I tried to return 
 it (to Aircraft Spruce), I was given a run-around for 3 days.  They 
 wanted me to talk to someone in the technical department at Unison to 
 see if I'd installed it in the plane wrong.  They (Aircraft Spruce ) 
 couldn't believe I found a manufacturing defect BEFORE it was 
 installed.  I made 30 phone calls to Unison over two days and never got 
 a reply back.  Aircraft Spruce finally just sent me a new mag (I'd 
 already returned the first new mag).
 
 I got the second new mag yesterday.  It's also F'd U.  I called Unison 
 5 times yesterday without anyone answering my call.  I finally got 
 Aircraft Spruce to go through their supplier.  Gee, they found out that 
 pretty much all of the mags made since GE took over have been 
 manufactured wrong.  In the mean time, the next batch of mags is due in 
 June.
 
 I took a bunch of pics showing the defect just in case someone wanted 
 to see it.  Sending them now to Aircraft Spruce.
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				 Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:23 am    Post subject: 4371 magneto | 
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				"About a month ago I got a new 4371 to install on a customers plane.  
 When I installed the nut, it locked up the whole impulse coupling mechanism.
 I took some measurements on the new one and compared it to the old one.  It
 had been manufactured wrong...  Gee, they found out that pretty much all of
 the mags made since GE took over have been manufactured wrong."
 
 I hate today's litigious society, but when I see GE totally screw up Unison
 with this kind of stuff, I secretly hope someone sues GE till it hurts their
 profit margin.  Funny how the lawsuits will kill the small guys, but the big
 guys can still pull this kind of crap on GA...
 
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		GrummanDude
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: 4371 magneto | 
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				You're not serious are you?  Who in the hell would benefit from GE 
 getting sued over screwing up a few mags?  For christ's sake, do you 
 really want to shut down an entire lifestyle for anyone connected to 
 general aviation?  Is this the way you solve all of your concerns with  
 manufacturing defects? or anything else any time you're not happy with 
 something?  Don't you think it would be just a little bit more 
 constructive to return the bad ones and let them know we aren't going 
 to be satisfied with poor quality control?
 
 Do you think putting General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler out of business 
 would have made the conversion to Toyota, Honda, and Subaru easier?  
 Or, do you think that just possibly, market forces are strong enough by 
 themselves to weed out the poor performers?
 
 Ya know, suing everyone just because you can reminds me of a certain 
 Elliot Stone.  He sued everyone related to his plane over a period of a 
 couple of years.  Everyone from the original seller to Fletchair.  He 
 wanted me to replace his windshield.  Now, even if I were paid 10 times 
 my normal shop rate, I wouldn't go near that plane.  He eventually sold 
 his Tiger because no one would sell him parts.  or work on his plane.
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 on a lighter note . . . . . Aircraft Spruce was very cooperative this 
 time.  I got a return authorization number and a shipper's number.  
 Yep, Aircraft Spruce picked up the shipping.  The only 
 fly-in-the-ointment is that the new mags won't be available for 3 
 weeks.
 
 PS.  I've been driving General Motors cars since 1967.  And that 
 includes 9 Corvairs (I never lost any money on Corvairs.  I bought one 
 convertible for $6, drove it for a year, and sold it for $150.  The 
 last one I had I put a 400hp 455 Olds Toronado engine and trans in it.  
 Now, that was fun.).  In 40 years I've only had one lemon; it was a car 
 returned on a lease.  My mistake.
 
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		GrummanDude
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: 4371 magneto | 
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				I got anohter new mag today.  It's an 0704xxxx series magneto.  I 
 installed the gear just like I  thought it should be.  Everything looks 
 good.  Now all I need is a few days to finish resealing the tank  Then 
 I'll be done; with this one.  It's taken a lot of lipstick and polish, 
 but, at least it's airworthy.
 Gary
 
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