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		bowing74(at)earthlink.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				I am selling my Commander and have been contacted by this person.  I feel I would be foolish if I did not use every source available to check the validity of this individual.  
 Do any of you have any knowledge of is person or business entity.  
 Capt Thomas Benson 
  Thomas Benson Avaitaion Inc.
  Abuja , Nigeria  
 Thanks,  
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		tylor.hall(at)sbcglobal.n Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				Bill,Be very careful about giving out an account number.  There have been scams that suck money out of your account even if you think they are going to send you money.
 Set up a separate account to receive money into that has a 0 balance.
 
 Never accept a check form overseas.  Only wire transfer.  Then wait for 2 weeks to make sure it clears.
 
 Nigeria has a very bad reputation for the Nigerian 914 scam.  " I have $25,000,000 dollars in this account and you can have 20% but you need to send me $300,000 to pay the fees."  If is sounds too good to be true, it is a scam to separate you from your money.
 Tylor Hall
 
 On May 8, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Bill Bow wrote:
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 I am selling my Commander and have been contacted by this person.  I feel I would be foolish if I did not use every source available to check the validity of this individual.
 Do any of you have any knowledge of is person or business entity.
 Capt Thomas Benson 
  Thomas Benson Avaitaion Inc.
  Abuja , Nigeria
 Thanks,
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 href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
 href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
 
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		CloudCraft(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				This is where I refer the emails I get from Nigeria.  Somehow, they never contact me again...
   
  3rd Annual Nigerian EMail Conference
   
   
  Wing Commander Gordon
 
 See what's free at AOL.com. 
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		28bravo(at)comcast.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				Here is a url that describes scams on the scammers
 
 http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/
 Tylor Hall wrote:
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  Be very careful about giving out an account number.  There have been 
  scams that suck money out of your account even if you think they are 
  going to send you money.
  Set up a separate account to receive money into that has a 0 balance.
 
  Never accept a check form overseas.  Only wire transfer.  Then wait 
  for 2 weeks to make sure it clears.
 
  Nigeria has a very bad reputation for the Nigerian 914 scam.  " I have 
  $25,000,000 dollars in this account and you can have 20% but you need 
  to send me $300,000 to pay the fees."  If is sounds too good to be 
  true, it is a scam to separate you from your money.
  Tylor Hall
 
  On May 8, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Bill Bow wrote:
 
 > I am selling my Commander and have been contacted by this person.  I 
 > feel I would be foolish if I did not use every source available to 
 > check the validity of this individual.
 >
 > Do any of you have any knowledge of is person or business entity.
 >
 > Capt Thomas Benson 
 > Thomas Benson Avaitaion Inc.
 > Abuja , Nigeria
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 > Thanks,
 >
 > bilbo
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 > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
 > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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 > *
 
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		Jim Addington
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				Bill, I can't find it but and my memory is the  worst but I remember something about a scam where they would buy the plane and  when you went to cash the check it was no good. Be sure you have cash in your  pocket before they get the plane.
   
  Jim Addington
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		captseth
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone know? | 
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				Total scam.
 
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		bowing74(at)earthlink.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				Thanks gents. That makes it easier.    
 I think the best thing for “the captain” to do is to take spelling lessons and get an American broker.  
    
 bilbo  
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:29 PM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
    
 Bill,    
 Be very careful about giving out an account number. There have been scams that suck money out of your account even if you think they are going to send you money.  
     
 Set up a separate account to receive money into that has a 0 balance.  
     
    
     
 Never accept a check form overseas. Only wire transfer. Then wait for 2 weeks to make sure it clears.  
     
    
     
 Nigeria has a very bad reputation for the Nigerian 914 scam. " I have $25,000,000 dollars in this account and you can have 20% but you need to send me $300,000 to pay the fees." If is sounds too good to be true, it is a scam to separate you from your money.  
     
 Tylor Hall  
     
        
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 I am selling my Commander and have been contacted by this person. I feel I would be foolish if I did not use every source available to check the validity of this individual.  
 Do any of you have any knowledge of is person or business entity.  
 Capt Thomas Benson 
  Thomas Benson Avaitaion Inc.
  Abuja , Nigeria  
 Thanks,  
 bilbo   	  | Quote: | 	 		  |  href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com  | 	  
   
    
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		nico(at)cybersuperstore.c Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				Above all, don’t give them a bank account number or give in to small fee demands to pay for so-called taxes or ‘hand grease’. The scammers are oftentimes in cahoots with corrupt bank officials who clear out your account and then you have to pursue them in Nigeria, which is something you don’t want to contemplate. I would seriously doubt this lead, but if you wish to pursue this “Captain”, then solicit the services of AOPA or some other reputable intermediary who has the clout to make sure your transaction goes through without hiccups. AOPA may even have members in Nigeria who could be an invaluable resource.   
    
 Chances are when a strong contingent of your team is introduced the “captain” would disappear off the face of the earth.   
    
 Nico  
    
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:47 PM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
      
 Bill, I can't find it but and my memory is the worst but I remember something about a scam where they would buy the plane and when you went to cash the check it was no good. Be sure you have cash in your pocket before they get the plane.  
     
    
     
 Jim Addington  
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		bowing74(at)earthlink.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				I suggested he get the services of a local crook oooaaa I mean broker.  I have no problem with a suit case full of cash delivered at the bank in front of others.  
    
 bilbo  
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:23 PM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
    
 Above all, don’t give them a bank account number or give in to small fee demands to pay for so-called taxes or ‘hand grease’. The scammers are oftentimes in cahoots with corrupt bank officials who clear out your account and then you have to pursue them in Nigeria, which is something you don’t want to contemplate. I would seriously doubt this lead, but if you wish to pursue this “Captain”, then solicit the services of AOPA or some other reputable intermediary who has the clout to make sure your transaction goes through without hiccups. AOPA may even have members in Nigeria who could be an invaluable resource.   
    
 Chances are when a strong contingent of your team is introduced the “captain” would disappear off the face of the earth.   
    
 Nico  
    
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim  Addington
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:47 PM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
      
 Bill, I can't find it but and my memory is the worst but I remember something about a scam where they would buy the plane and when you went to cash the check it was no good. Be sure you have cash in your pocket before they get the plane.  
     
    
     
 Jim Addington  
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		rsrandazzo(at)precisionma Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				Nico-
   
  Good advice on the intermediary...   
   
  Bill:  If this fellow is legit- he won't have any  problem using an escrow agency to handle the transaction.  I'd take that  avenue to ensure I was paid were I in your shoes.....    
   
  And to whomever it was that sent over the ebolamonkey.com  website....  I've just wasted two hours laughing my arsa off....  that  is very funny!
   
  Robert S. Randazzo
 
    From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico  css
 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 17:23
 To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: RE: Anyone  know?
  
   
 Above all, don’t give  them a bank account number or give in to small fee demands to pay for so-called  taxes or ‘hand grease’. The scammers are oftentimes in cahoots with corrupt bank  officials who clear out your account and then you have to pursue them in  Nigeria, which is something you don’t  want to contemplate. I would seriously doubt this lead, but if you wish to  pursue this “Captain”, then solicit the services of AOPA or some other reputable  intermediary who has the clout to make sure your transaction goes through  without hiccups. AOPA may even have members in Nigeria  who could be an invaluable resource.  
   
 Chances are when a  strong contingent of your team is introduced the “captain” would disappear off  the face of the earth.  
   
 Nico 
   
      
  
 From:  owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington
 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:47  PM
 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Anyone  know?
  
    
 Bill, I can't find it but and my  memory is the worst but I remember something about a scam where they would buy  the plane and when you went to cash the check it was no good. Be sure you have  cash in your pocket before they get the  plane.
   
  
   
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		bowing74(at)earthlink.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				Did anybody notice that he misspelled the word Aviation, in Thomas Benson Avaitaion Inc.  
    
 bilbo,  
 Running for the hills  
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S. Randazzo
  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:12 AM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
    
 Nico-  
    
 Good advice on the intermediary...    
    
 Bill:  If this fellow is legit- he won't have any problem using an escrow agency to handle the transaction.  I'd take that avenue to ensure I was paid were I in your shoes.....     
    
 And to whomever it was that sent over the ebolamonkey.com website....  I've just wasted two hours laughing my arsa off....  that is very funny!  
    
 Robert S. Randazzo  
        
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 17:23
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
 Above all, don’t give them a bank account number or give in to small fee demands to pay for so-called taxes or ‘hand grease’. The scammers are oftentimes in cahoots with corrupt bank officials who clear out your account and then you have to pursue them in Nigeria, which is something you don’t want to contemplate. I would seriously doubt this lead, but if you wish to pursue this “Captain”, then solicit the services of AOPA or some other reputable intermediary who has the clout to make sure your transaction goes through without hiccups. AOPA may even have members in Nigeria who could be an invaluable resource.   
    
 Chances are when a strong contingent of your team is introduced the “captain” would disappear off the face of the earth.   
    
 Nico  
    
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim  Addington
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:47 PM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
      
 Bill, I can't find it but and my memory is the worst but I remember something about a scam where they would buy the plane and when you went to cash the check it was no good. Be sure you have cash in your pocket before they get the plane.  
     
    
     
 Jim Addington  
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		rlegg(at)austarnet.com.au Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:33 am    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				Dear Bilbo,
  
  You were ceremoniously forgiven for the ‘s’ discussion...we are approaching the fifth birthday of that shameful outrage!
  
  Don’t be fearful of all ‘overseas cheques’...you will only get good ones from downunder here.
  
  Cheers
  
  Russell
  
  PS Still looking for the right Commander to buy...so currently no Google-earth coordinates!
  
  
  
  
  On 9/5/07 9:49 PM, "Bill Bow" <bowing74(at)earthlink.net> wrote:
  
  [quote]Did anybody notice that he misspelled the word Aviation, in Thomas Benson Avaitaion Inc.
   
  bilbo,
  Running for the hills
   
    
   
  From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email]owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com][/email]) On Behalf Of Robert S. Randazzo
  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:12 AM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Anyone know?
   
  Nico-
   
  Good advice on the intermediary...  
   
  Bill:  If this fellow is legit- he won't have any problem using an escrow agency to handle the transaction. I'd take that avenue to ensure I was paid were I in your shoes.....  
   
  And to whomever it was that sent over the ebolamonkey.com website....  I've just wasted two hours laughing my arsa off....  that is very funny!
   
  Robert S. Randazzo
     
   
  
  From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email]owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com][/email]) On Behalf Of nico css
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 17:23
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Anyone know?
  Above all, don’t give them a bank account number or give in to small fee demands to pay for so-called taxes or ‘hand grease’. The scammers are oftentimes in cahoots with corrupt bank officials who clear out your account and then you have to pursue them in Nigeria, which is something you don’t want to contemplate. I would seriously doubt this lead, but if you wish to pursue this “Captain”, then solicit the services of AOPA or some other reputable intermediary who has the clout to make sure your transaction goes through without hiccups. AOPA may even have members in Nigeria who could be an invaluable resource. 
   
  Chances are when a strong contingent of your team is introduced the “captain” would disappear off the face of the earth. 
   
  Nico
   
   
    
   
  From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email]owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com][/email]) On Behalf Of Jim Addington
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:47 PM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Anyone know?
   
  
  Bill, I can't find it but and my memory is the worst but I remember something about a scam where they would buy the plane and when you went to cash the check it was no good. Be sure you have cash in your pocket before they get the plane.
  
   
  
  Jim Addington
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		bowing74(at)earthlink.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				Well Russell,  
 This one needs a nice home http://home.earthlink.net/~bowing74/  
 bilbo  
    
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Legg
  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:34 AM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
    
 Dear Bilbo,
  
  You were ceremoniously forgiven for the ‘s’ discussion...we are approaching the fifth birthday of that shameful outrage!
  
  Don’t be fearful of all ‘overseas cheques’...you will only get good ones from downunder here.
  
  Cheers
  
  Russell
  
  PS Still looking for the right Commander to buy...so currently no Google-earth coordinates!
  
  
  
  
  On 9/5/07 9:49 PM, "Bill Bow" <bowing74(at)earthlink.net> wrote:  
 Did anybody notice that he misspelled the word Aviation, in Thomas Benson Avaitaion Inc.
  
  bilbo,
  Running for the hills
         
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email]owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com%5d[/email]) On Behalf Of Robert S. Randazzo
  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:12 AM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Commander-List: Anyone know?
  
  Nico-
  
  Good advice on the intermediary...  
  
  Bill:  If this fellow is legit- he won't have any problem using an escrow agency to handle the transaction. I'd take that avenue to ensure I was paid were I in your shoes.....  
  
  And to whomever it was that sent over the ebolamonkey.com website....  I've just wasted two hours laughing my arsa off....  that is very funny!
  
  Robert S. Randazzo      
   
 
  From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email]owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com%5d[/email]) On Behalf Of nico css
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 17:23
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Commander-List: Anyone know?
  Above all, don’t give them a bank account number or give in to small fee demands to pay for so-called taxes or ‘hand grease’. The scammers are oftentimes in cahoots with corrupt bank officials who clear out your account and then you have to pursue them in Nigeria, which is something you don’t want to contemplate. I would seriously doubt this lead, but if you wish to pursue this “Captain”, then solicit the services of AOPA or some other reputable intermediary who has the clout to make sure your transaction goes through without hiccups. AOPA may even have members in Nigeria who could be an invaluable resource. 
   
  Chances are when a strong contingent of your team is introduced the “captain” would disappear off the face of the earth. 
   
  Nico
  
         
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email]owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com%5d[/email]) On Behalf Of Jim Addington
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:47 PM
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  Bill, I can't find it but and my memory is the worst but I remember something about a scam where they would buy the plane and when you went to cash the check it was no good. Be sure you have cash in your pocket before they get the plane.
  
  
  
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				Hi All,
   
  Well, I suppose nowadays "you will only get good  ones from downunder here" is probably true, but don't forget that we used to  send all our convicts 'down under'.
  Traits could still linger in the genes   
   
  Best Regards,
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				Russell,  
    
 Did you bid and/or look at this 685 that was up for auction down under a week ago?  My associate Michael  Pont and I were interested but got into the game too late to inspect.  Do you know anything about this plane pros or cons?  
    
 http://www.lexsimshauser.com.au/MaryboroughAircraftAuction/AeroCommander_VH-FVJ.htm   
    
 Regards,  
 Steve G.  
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Legg
  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:34 AM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
    
 Dear Bilbo,
  
  You were ceremoniously forgiven for the ‘s’ discussion...we are approaching the fifth birthday of that shameful outrage!
  
  Don’t be fearful of all ‘overseas cheques’...you will only get good ones from downunder here.
  
  Cheers
  
  Russell
  
  PS Still looking for the right Commander to buy...so currently no Google-earth coordinates!
  
  
  
  
  On 9/5/07 9:49 PM, "Bill Bow" <bowing74(at)earthlink.net> wrote:  
 Did anybody notice that he misspelled the word Aviation, in Thomas Benson Avaitaion Inc.
  
  bilbo,
  Running for the hills
         
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email]owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com%5d[/email]) On Behalf Of Robert S. Randazzo
  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:12 AM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Commander-List: Anyone know?
  
  Nico-
  
  Good advice on the intermediary...  
  
  Bill:  If this fellow is legit- he won't have any problem using an escrow agency to handle the transaction. I'd take that avenue to ensure I was paid were I in your shoes.....  
  
  And to whomever it was that sent over the ebolamonkey.com website....  I've just wasted two hours laughing my arsa off....  that is very funny!
  
  Robert S. Randazzo      
   
 
  From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email]owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com%5d[/email]) On Behalf Of nico css
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 17:23
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Commander-List: Anyone know?
  Above all, don’t give them a bank account number or give in to small fee demands to pay for so-called taxes or ‘hand grease’. The scammers are oftentimes in cahoots with corrupt bank officials who clear out your account and then you have to pursue them in Nigeria, which is something you don’t want to contemplate. I would seriously doubt this lead, but if you wish to pursue this “Captain”, then solicit the services of AOPA or some other reputable intermediary who has the clout to make sure your transaction goes through without hiccups. AOPA may even have members in Nigeria who could be an invaluable resource. 
   
  Chances are when a strong contingent of your team is introduced the “captain” would disappear off the face of the earth. 
   
  Nico
  
         
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] ([email]owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com%5d[/email]) On Behalf Of Jim Addington
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:47 PM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Commander-List: Anyone know?
  
  
  Bill, I can't find it but and my memory is the worst but I remember something about a scam where they would buy the plane and when you went to cash the check it was no good. Be sure you have cash in your pocket before they get the plane.
  
  
  
  Jim Addington  [quote]  
 
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				In a message dated 5/9/2007 7:49:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  bowing74(at)earthlink.net writes:
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 Well  Russell,   
 This one needs a nice    home http://home.earthlink.net/~bowing74/   
 bilbo   
  Good    Morning Bilbo,   
 Does anyone have an STC to hang a couple of IO-550s on the    500 Commander?     
 Since those engines are generally the same or lighter    weight than the 470s. it would seem to be a win win situation.    
 We have found the 550 to be a tremendous engine when stuck    in a Bonanza to replace the 470. I would imagine they would make the 500 into    a light weight skyrocket. We regularly find that the 550 equipped    airplanes will get there faster and burn less fuel than they did with the    470s.   
 Happy Skies,
 
 Old Bob
 AKA
 Bob Siegfried
 Ancient    Aviator
 Stearman N3977A
 Brookeridge Air Park LL22
 Downers Grove, IL    60516
 630 985-8503 | 	  
 
 
 See what's free at AOL.com. 
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				I doubt Russell has any “shackle marks on his ankles”.  
 bilbo  
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman
  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:51 AM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
      
 Hi All,  
     
    
     
 Well, I suppose nowadays "you will only get good ones from downunder here" is probably true, but don't forget that we used to send all our convicts 'down under'.  
     
 Traits could still linger in the genes    
     
    
     
 Best Regards,  
     
 Barry  
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				There is virtually no world in which this guy is legit.  Be wary also of "cashier's-check" scams, whereby the guy shows up with a round-number cashier's check worth more than the transaction ("I wanted to make sure there was enough to cover all possible fees") and asks for a cash refund.  The cashier's check will clear in your account, then the funds will be removed a few days later when the bank figures out it's not legitimate.   Also, as other's have warned, do not give bank-account details, even for inbound wire-transfers....once they have the account #, they are only one step away from clearing you out.
     
    Nigeria is world renowned for these scams....there's even a penal code for them (can't remember...something like "614").
     
    AD
     
     
     
   
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				The Colemill  with IO-520 is the only one I’m aware of.  There were not enough 500As built to get any interest in an STC going.  
 bilbo  
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BobsV35B(at)aol.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:59 AM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
          
 In a message dated 5/9/2007 7:49:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bowing74(at)earthlink.net writes:  
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 Well Russell,  
 This one needs a nice home http://home.earthlink.net/~bowing74/  
 bilbo  
 Good Morning Bilbo,  
 Does anyone have an STC to hang a couple of IO-550s on the 500 Commander?    
 Since those engines are generally the same or lighter weight than the 470s. it would seem to be a win win situation.   
 We have found the 550 to be a tremendous engine when stuck in a Bonanza to replace the 470. I would imagine they would make the 500 into a light weight skyrocket. We regularly find that the 550 equipped airplanes will get there faster and burn less fuel than they did with the 470s.  
 Happy Skies,
  
  Old Bob
  AKA
  Bob Siegfried
  Ancient Aviator
  Stearman N3977A
  Brookeridge Air Park LL22
  Downers Grove, IL 60516
  630 985-8503   | 	    
   
   
 
  
          
   
 See what's free at AOL.com.   
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Anyone know? | 
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				My wife is a faster “cleaner” than any Nigerian. :>)  
 bilbo  
          
   
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:01 AM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Commander-List: Anyone know?  
   
      
 There is virtually no world in which this guy is legit.  Be wary also of "cashier's-check" scams, whereby the guy shows up with a round-number cashier's check worth more than the transaction ("I wanted to make sure there was enough to cover all possible fees") and asks for a cash refund.  The cashier's check will clear in your account, then the funds will be removed a few days later when the bank figures out it's not legitimate.   Also, as other's have warned, do not give bank-account details, even for inbound wire-transfers....once they have the account #, they are only one step away from clearing you out.  
     
    
     
 Nigeria is world renowned for these scams....there's even a penal code for them (can't remember...something like "614").  
     
    
     
 AD  
     
    
     
    
     
    
   
  
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