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		GrummanDude
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Metal-to-metal bonding | 
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				I'm in the process of getting an STC to repair the horizontal bracing 
 using an approved metal-to-metal bonding similar to that used to make 
 the part in the first place.  This wll eliminate the row of rivets down 
 the side.  Plus, the fuel tank sealant currently being used is not a 
 bonding agent and the rivets being used are only a fraction of the 
 strength of the original bonding.
 
 Does anyone know what the name, maunfacture, and the bonding strength 
 characteristics (shear and tensile strengths) of the bonding material 
 used in our planes?  A lot has happened since metal-to-metal bonding of 
 our planes began.  Today, there are several approved procedures.  I 
 just need to find one that meets or exceeds the original specifications.
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				 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Metal-to-metal bonding | 
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				On my tour of Chem Fab they said they used Hysol  9309 Epoxy paste http://www.loctite.com/int_henkel/loctite/binarydata/pdf/Hysol_EA_9309_3NA.pdf for  cold bonding to fill any after bonding voids or in areas where hot bonding  wasn't needed or couldn't be done. I assume you are talking about cold bonding.  >From what they were saying to get any approval at that time for using this  stuff for field repairs was almost impossible due to the stringent controls on  preparation and proper priming of the surfaces. I did ask them if it was going  to be possible to use it for bond repairs and they indicated it would most  likely be included in Tiger's maintenance manual once they had their production  certificate, but I never saw it produced.
   
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				 Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Metal-to-metal bonding | 
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				Hi Ian, The DER with whom I am working (one of them) is a structural 
 engineer.  He is really into current methods of metal-to-metal bonding. 
   I need the previous hot bonding specs so we can make a 'same form, 
 fit, and function' comparison.  I'll check out the .pdf you referenced 
 and see if that helps me.
 
 Thanks a bunch.
 Gary
 
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