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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:29 am Post subject: Yak 55 Flight Test Report |
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Anyone willing to give a description of the flying qualities good and bad of the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55 but have not found a report.
Thanks in advance,
Phil Salter
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: Yak 55 Flight Test Report |
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look into mark/s web page in england, there is a
comparison in the webb from a high time pilot that
flew both the 55 and the su 26 his report is very
favorable and credible. I have a zlin and a 55 and for
the buck there is nothing like the 55, you will love
the radial engine and after you get over the quirks of
inverted spin (I recommend Nick timofeyev in florida)
there is nothing like it at the price (unless you have
the bucks for a sukhoi or big extra). The down side is
the funny air start stuff but you get over it. Lots of
power, easy to fly and land, easy to mantain, messy in
the hangar leaks oil all over, but it pays back on fun
time. The main down is if you want to go unlimited,
they say its not competitive there. I dont plan to be
there so I have fun with mine.
andres
--- PSalter(at)aol.com wrote:
Quote: | Anyone willing to give a description of the flying
qualities good and bad of
the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55
but have not found a
report.
Thanks in advance,
Phil Salter
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free at http://www.aol.com.
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: Yak 55 Flight Test Report |
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In terms of flying I cannot believe the Yak 55 does not go for a lot more
money. I have been favorably impressed with the airplane for acro through
advanced and have been doing a lot of 1/2 turn, 1 turn and 1 and 1/4 turn
inverted spins recently without any quirks especially when compared with the
Pitts which takes "timing" to exit spins on heading. I have flown single
seat Pitts, S2As and S2Bs and prefer the Yak 55. You know exactly what the
airplane is doing through every manuever including tumbles. I have never
felt like the airplane wasn't responsive to what I was trying to do. I even
like the stick geometry with the stick being up higher than other aircraft.
It seems to be more comfortable when flying sequences than other aircraft I
have flown. It also does very well throughout the speed range and it allows
you to get pretty slow, stay flying without dropping a wing and accelerate
(tractor) out of near zero energy situations relatively easily. Every other
airplane I've flown I had some comments about negative traits, but I haven't
yet had one on the Yak and I've had the airplane 2 years now.
Best Regards,
Jason
Yak 55m
Seattle, WA
Quote: | From: Dr Andre Katz <bu131(at)swbell.net>
Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak 55 Flight Test Report
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:49:03 -0700 (PDT)
look into mark/s web page in england, there is a
comparison in the webb from a high time pilot that
flew both the 55 and the su 26 his report is very
favorable and credible. I have a zlin and a 55 and for
the buck there is nothing like the 55, you will love
the radial engine and after you get over the quirks of
inverted spin (I recommend Nick timofeyev in florida)
there is nothing like it at the price (unless you have
the bucks for a sukhoi or big extra). The down side is
the funny air start stuff but you get over it. Lots of
power, easy to fly and land, easy to mantain, messy in
the hangar leaks oil all over, but it pays back on fun
time. The main down is if you want to go unlimited,
they say its not competitive there. I dont plan to be
there so I have fun with mine.
andres
--- PSalter(at)aol.com wrote:
> Anyone willing to give a description of the flying
> qualities good and bad of
> the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55
> but have not found a
> report.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Phil Salter
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's
> free at http://www.aol.com.
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: Yak 55 Flight Test Report |
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You gotta love that sexy little 50 too. She will do all you speak too.
Doc
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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m Guest
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: Yak 55 Flight Test Report |
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Not like the 55 Doc. Better wing for aerobatics. And you know how much
I adore my 50.
I think for airshows though that the 50 might be preferred.
Mark B.
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: Yak 55 Flight Test Report |
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Affirmative! Nothing like her! The 55 is a better acro bird because of it's
wing. But, I still love that 50 and I'm not trying to compete in acro
competition! Just beat'n up on RV's when they'll play.
Doc
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: Yak 55 Flight Test Report |
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Andres - which Zlin do you fly? I have been looking at 50LS and a Yak 55 -
would like an opinion on both? Climb rate, energy management etc?
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: Yak 55 Flight Test Report |
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I'll second this. The 55M is essentially an Unlimited airplane (OK, not
a "World-Class" Unlimited airplane, but look at the results Jeff
Boerboon gets beating up on US Team members in Unlimited in his 55M at
the Arizona and SoCal contests...) for very little money. It is
absolutely predictable, snaps easily, spins nicely (I also have not had
issues with the inverted spin--in fact it is easier to set up an
inverted spin, and stop on heading than a Pitts or Su-29) and lumps with
the best of them (OK, it doesn't have the "auto-freestyle" feature of
the Su-29, but it also has much more docile spin modes). The only real
downside is that is scrubs energy above +6/-6 G (which means that you
shouldn't pull +9 or push -7, making the sequence more pleasant and less
work) and is very draggy. It looses more altitude than a Sukhoi in a
sequence, but doesn't beat you up. Having said that, I routinely fly
Advanced sequences at density altitudes between 6000 and 8000 feet
(field elevation 4100, and it's the summer in the middle of the
Chiuahuan desert...) and can start at 3500 and finish at/above 1200. I
have heard the Russians joke that it is a "constant speed airplane"
since it flies with the same stick forces at 180 kph or 350 kph. In a
Pitts or even in a Su-29, Advanced is work. In the 55, it is actually a
lot of fun. This is going to sound weird, but I have been a partner in a
Su-29 and now own a Yak-55M, and I prefer the Yak to the Sukhoi. The 29
has better absolute performance (although not by much), but is MUCH
harder to fly WELL, and is harder on the pilot. Oh, yeah, and it's built
like a tank.
And best of all, if you ask a 3 year old to draw a picture of an
airplane, he'll draw a Yak 55. <VBG>
Scott
Jason Bialek wrote:
Quote: |
In terms of flying I cannot believe the Yak 55 does not go for a lot
more money. I have been favorably impressed with the airplane for acro
through advanced and have been doing a lot of 1/2 turn, 1 turn and 1
and 1/4 turn inverted spins recently without any quirks especially
when compared with the Pitts which takes "timing" to exit spins on
heading. I have flown single seat Pitts, S2As and S2Bs and prefer the
Yak 55. You know exactly what the airplane is doing through every
manuever including tumbles. I have never felt like the airplane wasn't
responsive to what I was trying to do. I even like the stick geometry
with the stick being up higher than other aircraft. It seems to be
more comfortable when flying sequences than other aircraft I have
flown. It also does very well throughout the speed range and it allows
you to get pretty slow, stay flying without dropping a wing and
accelerate (tractor) out of near zero energy situations relatively
easily. Every other airplane I've flown I had some comments about
negative traits, but I haven't yet had one on the Yak and I've had the
airplane 2 years now.
Best Regards,
Jason
Yak 55m
Seattle, WA
> From: Dr Andre Katz <bu131(at)swbell.net>
> Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak 55 Flight Test Report
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:49:03 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>
> look into mark/s web page in england, there is a
> comparison in the webb from a high time pilot that
> flew both the 55 and the su 26 his report is very
> favorable and credible. I have a zlin and a 55 and for
> the buck there is nothing like the 55, you will love
> the radial engine and after you get over the quirks of
> inverted spin (I recommend Nick timofeyev in florida)
> there is nothing like it at the price (unless you have
> the bucks for a sukhoi or big extra). The down side is
> the funny air start stuff but you get over it. Lots of
> power, easy to fly and land, easy to mantain, messy in
> the hangar leaks oil all over, but it pays back on fun
> time. The main down is if you want to go unlimited,
> they say its not competitive there. I dont plan to be
> there so I have fun with mine.
> andres
> --- PSalter(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> > Anyone willing to give a description of the flying
> > qualities good and bad of
> > the Yak 55. I have always been interested in the 55
> > but have not found a
> > report.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Phil Salter
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's
> > free at http://www.aol.com.
> >
>
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: Yak 55 Flight Test Report |
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i have a 50LS climb rate in the zlin is a bit higher than the yak i believe but i fly both without bothering to check the climb rate. i get to 3500 feet my initial acro faster in the zlin probably due to thin wings. energy management is much easier in the zlin due to the fact that you do not lose so much altitude in the down maneuvers as in the yak, i have to start at 4k in the yak and worry a bit about vertical downs since i am a novice in the sport. i am much more comfortable in the zlin due to the seating position the zlin seat is a marvel the yak is a bitch for a tall person;. the zlin is a gentle pussycat the yak is a tall monster both are really tame when you know them. Landing the zlin is a piece of cake and the speed is slow, the yak wants 180 k on final and it has a pump injector that tends to enrich the mixture when you add power on short final and tends to lag a bit and a couple of unsuspecting guys have hit hard due to the device. i have not changed the injector nozzle yet but i am prepared for the choke.
andres
Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za> wrote:
[quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jorgen Nielsen"
Andres - which Zlin do you fly? I have been looking at 50LS and a Yak 55 -
would like an opinion on both? Climb rate, energy management etc?
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: Yak 55 Flight Test Report |
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Are you running the PF engine? Just curious.
Mark Bitterlich
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