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AZFlyer

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 89
Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: Rudder cables exiting rear fuslage

After trying numerous search criteria I was unable to locate any earlier concerns about the description, location, drilling, cutting or general construction of the exit holes and fairlead measurements, (other than the P-poor drawings on 6-B-4)... that leave a great deal to the imagination.



These exit holes (slots) should be smooth and nearly frictionless for cable drag and wear, but some Aviation engineer decided to just "spot them" and leave the rest up to us poor B---turds to figure it out.  



I did find another builders pictures on his web site that show his best guess...  but no narrative and no measurements...  so ? has anybody concerned themselves with a "smooth, sanitary, clean install" or are we just "Winging It?"



Love and kisses...



help!



Thanks,

Mike

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: Rudder cables exiting rear fuslage

Hi Mike,



I'm sorry but I am confused over your question.  Just what is it 

about the rudder cable exits that you are concerned about?



I just made the fair-leads according to the plans and riveted them in 

place.  Am I missing something here?



Paul

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At 07:11 PM 5/17/2007, you wrote:

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After trying numerous search criteria I was unable to locate any 

earlier concerns about the description, location, drilling, cutting 

or general construction of the exit holes and fairlead measurements, 

(other than the P-poor drawings on 6-B-4)... that leave a great deal 

to the imagination.



These exit holes (slots) should be smooth and nearly frictionless 

for cable drag and wear, but some Aviation engineer decided to just 

"spot them" and leave the rest up to us poor B---turds to figure it out.



I did find another builders pictures on his web site that show his 

best guess...  but no narrative and no measurements...  so ? has 

anybody concerned themselves with a "smooth, sanitary, clean 

install" or are we just "Winging It?"



Love and kisses...



help!



Thanks,

Mike



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Mike Miller (at) millrml(at)aol.com

601 XL, 3300, Dynon



Remember,  &quot;the second mouse gets the cheese&quot;!





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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Rudder cables exiting rear fuslage

As most of us have done at one point or another in the build process, and as I do on an almost continuous basis you are over thinking the problem.



Take the aluminum fairing. Place it where the lower side will be flush with the bottom of the fuselage. Remember the rivets that are connecting the skin to the longeron also connect the fairing and fair lead to the aircraft. Mark the the point middle of the arch on to the skin and you have your cable exit point.



I did one thing different than the plans. I put the nylon inside the fuselage. It looks better and protects just as much if not more because there is no way then to have the cable contact the skin.

 	  AZFlyer wrote: 	
		  After trying numerous search criteria I was unable to locate any earlier concerns about the description, location, drilling, cutting or general construction of the exit holes and fairlead measurements, (other than the P-poor drawings on 6-B-4)... that leave a great deal to the imagination.



These exit holes (slots) should be smooth and nearly frictionless for cable drag and wear, but some Aviation engineer decided to just "spot them" and leave the rest up to us poor B---turds to figure it out.  



I did find another builders pictures on his web site that show his best guess...  but no narrative and no measurements...  so ? has anybody concerned themselves with a "smooth, sanitary, clean install" or are we just "Winging It?"



Love and kisses...



help!



Thanks,

Mike

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AZFlyer

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
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Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: Re: Rudder cables exiting rear fuslage

Gig,



After studying the pictures that Paul sent me off-line, I now see what he did as a work-a-round to my concern.  He opened the 8 x 20 mm slot in the skin to allow a better alignment with the cable.



This was really my quandary.  I had set the lower rudder horn in it's hinge hole and inserted a 1/8" dowel through the skin to the horn (where the cable would terminate), only to find a major mis-alignment through the fairlead.   Then the poorly drawn engr. dwg.s don't explain the slot in the nylon ...except to "make one."



I'll take a look at putting the nylon inside as you did... sounds good.



Thanks for the feedback.



M

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