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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: Trueflight 190The Perfect Panel Reply with quote

I installed the GRT WX Weather module and wired it to feed all three of my GRT screens (displayed over the moving map). I love it. On a recent trip it really helped fly around some really bad weather. I could have flown around such weather as I was VFR but I would have gone a long way around instead of picking and choosing my route. ATC (flight following) asked if I had onboard radar and my response was "Yes that is why I am now heading due West instead of Northwest" ATC said that a pilot reported ice at 14000 feet. I feel real sorry for anybody who flew through the middle of that system on an IFR flight plan.

You can see screen shots of the route I flew through the weather cells at:


http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sjtabiweather2go5.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sjtabiweather1yr4.jpg



http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sjtlbbweather1og4.jpg

The screen shots cover the last part of the flight around the weather. I wished I had shot a picture when the weather system was directly ahead of me before I turned west to fly around it. My route was KERV direct to KLBB but southeast of KSJT I turned west as the weather system was painted from just west of KSJT TO at least 50 miles east of KDYS. After turning west and going around KSJT I then fly back Northeast between KSJT and KBPG and then headed North between KBPG and KSWW. Had I not had onboard radar I would have flown west probably west of KMAF before turning back north and then coming into KLBB from the west side (headed East).

I cannot say enough about how great the customer service is at GRT as well.

Russ Daves
N710RV - First flight 7/28/06 - 110 hours and counting




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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Trueflight 190The Perfect Panel Reply with quote

Russ your explanation and examples helps many in the choice of GRT as a lower cost and robust alternative to the plunge into the deep end (financially) with Chelton. However one of your sentences led me to believe that you also have Onboard Radar – which brand?

I was under the impression that the data painted (in the examples was from something like WSI) was delayed and sent by RF signal over a receiver, then overlaid into the GRT screen to create the impression of having onboard radar when one was not present onboard. How do you designate the equipped RV-10 for IFR flight plans?

John


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Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:12 AM
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I installed the GRT WX Weather module and wired it to feed all three of my GRT screens (displayed over the moving map). I love it. On a recent trip it really helped fly around some really bad weather. I could have flown around such weather as I was VFR but I would have gone a long way around instead of picking and choosing my route. ATC (flight following) asked if I had onboard radar and my response was "Yes that is why I am now heading due West instead of Northwest" ATC said that a pilot reported ice at 14000 feet. I feel real sorry for anybody who flew through the middle of that system on an IFR flight plan.



You can see screen shots of the route I flew through the weather cells at:





http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sjtabiweather2go5.jpg



http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sjtabiweather1yr4.jpg




http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sjtlbbweather1og4.jpg

The screen shots cover the last part of the flight around the weather. I wished I had shot a picture when the weather system was directly ahead of me before I turned west to fly around it. My route was KERV direct to KLBB but southeast of KSJT I turned west as the weather system was painted from just west of KSJT TO at least 50 miles east of KDYS. After turning west and going around KSJT I then fly back Northeast between KSJT and KBPG and then headed North between KBPG and KSWW. Had I not had onboard radar I would have flown west probably west of KMAF before turning back north and then coming into KLBB from the west side (headed East).



I cannot say enough about how great the customer service is at GRT as well.



Russ Daves

N710RV - First flight 7/28/06 - 110 hours and counting






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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject: Trueflight 190The Perfect Panel Reply with quote

Thanks for the pics as it greatly enhances the text.

Kevin
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Trueflight 190The Perfect Panel Reply with quote

Kevin...please keep in mind that 2 minute old "radar" is not radar but good recent history information...if you say I have radar to the ATC they are going to believe you and may not give you a pop up advisory assuming that you have active radar on board...telling ATC you have equipment that you do not have I think is a bit misleading and over playing your hand.  But hat's just my opinion...having this information is valuable and certainly much better than flying blind...but it ain't radar...

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Trueflight 190The Perfect Panel Reply with quote

I agree wholeheartedly and normally would have questioned how much could change in 2 minutes (actually that was the first I’d heard of the lag time, is it really that long?), but was shooting an approach into Dulles several years ago and every sweep of the radar would show a new thunderstorm cell or a transition in color (green, yellow, red) which indicates a huge change in intensity. Most amazing thing I’ve ever seen and there was no way ATC could have kept up with the dynamic changes but we were able to thread our way through.

Having said that, on any flight conditions I hope to take my -10 into the wx datalink is fantastic and in many ways is better because you don’t have shadowing caused by heavy precipitation and therefore hiding something even worse.

The ability to get digital ATIS is also a brilliant idea so you can formulate backup plans real time, especially now that FSS is VERY difficult to get in touch with in some areas.

Marcus

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Kevin...please keep in mind that 2 minute old "radar" is not radar but good recent history information...if you say I have radar to the ATC they are going to believe you and may not give you a pop up advisory assuming that you have active radar on board...telling ATC you have equipment that you do not have I think is a bit misleading and over playing your hand. But hat's just my opinion...having this information is valuable and certainly much better than flying blind...but it ain't radar...



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