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Mark Burton

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 74

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

A Europa aircraft, G-HOFC, crashed in South Wales yesterday. Sadly, both pilots were killed. The BBC news article doesn't mention any names but that was William Mill's aircraft. It is unclear at this time how the accident happened.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6713087.stm



Mark

topglock(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

Please keep us informed.



Thanks,



Jeff



Mark Burton wrote:

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 A Europa aircraft, G-HOFC, crashed in South Wales yesterday. Sadly, both pilots were killed. The BBC news article doesn't mention any names but that was William Mill's aircraft. It is unclear at this time how the accident happened.



 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6713087.stm



 Mark





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alan(at)kestrel-insurance
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

Kate and I are both totally numb at the tragic news of the loss of William

and Paul, two good friends. Our thoughts and deepest sympathies go out to

their families and numerous friends. The group will not be the same without

their smiling faces and good humour. Every time we attend a Europa gathering

of any kind, I know we will look to the door expecting them to appear at any

moment for many years to come.

I'm sure they are both now flying with angels



Alan & Kate



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mikenjulie.parkin(at)btop
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

The world is a poorer place without Paul and William.  I will miss very much 

William's smile and soft voice.  We have lost a real gentleman of the Europa 

family.



Mike.

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wdaniell(at)etb.net.co
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

Sorry to hear this.

Will



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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

I'm just stunned...met William at Sun N Fun a few weeks ago...what a 

gentleman...I'll miss not seeing him again and his helpful posts on our 

list...all my sympathies go out to Diana, his family, and many dear 

friends.



Very sad,



Fred



On Saturday, June 2, 2007, at 01:02  PM, William Daniell wrote:



[quote] 

 <wdaniell(at)etb.net.co>



 Sorry to hear this.

 Will



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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

It saddens me greatly that William made a mistake or wrong decision or 

whatever and it cost he and Paul their lives. I thank my Guardian Angel 

that my own wrong decisions didn't cost me a similar price.

William had an open and agile mind, (Paul did too) and he had enormous 

enthusiasm for the Europa and what it does for us all. I will try not to 

forget the things I learned from them both and I will smile when I 

remember them.



Graham



Mike Parkin wrote:

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 <mikenjulie.parkin(at)btopenworld.com>

 

 The world is a poorer place without Paul and William.  I will miss very 

 much William's smile and soft voice.  We have lost a real gentleman of 

 the Europa family.

 

 Mike.

Gilles.Thesee(at)ac-greno
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:22 am Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

Sorry to hear about the loss of two homebuilder fellows.

Our sympathies go out to their families and friends.



Regards,

-- 

Gilles

http://contrails.free.fr

william(at)wrmills.plus.c
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

Mr Singleton,



It saddens me when in such tragic circumstances someone can be so wildly 

speculative when so few details are known. You assume my father was piloting 

the plane and assume that it was pilot error. Our family are dedicated to 

finding out the truth of the matter, anyone who knows my father will know 

how important the truth was to him. To my limited understanding of these 

matters neither Paul or my father would have the ability to make the plane 

break -up in mid air flight. However, I would not venture any further 

comment until I have all the facts from the investigation, which we 

understand may take many months to complete. It is not helpfull for either 

family to have to deal with any suggestion of blame or fault.



Josephine (Nee Mills)



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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

Well said, Josephine.



Courage in the days, weeks, and months ahead as the mystery unfolds. As 

is obvious from all the postings, your father's piloting skills and 

experience are highly respected.



With most sincere condolences,



Fred



 	  Quote: 	
		   It saddens me when in such tragic circumstances someone can be so 

 wildly speculative when so few details are known. You assume my father 

 was piloting the plane and assume that it was pilot error. Our family 

 are dedicated to finding out the truth of the matter, anyone who knows 

 my father will know how important the truth was to him. To my limited 

 understanding of these matters neither Paul or my father would have 

 the ability to make the plane break -up in mid air flight. However, I 

 would not venture any further comment until I have all the facts from 

 the investigation, which we understand may take many months to 

 complete. It is not helpfull for either family to have to deal with 

 any suggestion of blame or fault.



 Josephine (Nee Mills)


	


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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

Dear Josephine

Please accept my apopogies for my earlier remarks. I have read my email 

again and you are right, it does appear that I implied pilot error which 

was not at all what I intended to say.

Some years ago I made a wrong decision, to continue flying rather than 

accept a controlled crash. It almost cost me my own life. That was what 

was in my mind when I wrote of my saddness about William. He and I had 

considerable respect for each others opinions about many things.

Upsetting his family is the last thing I would want to do but now I've 

done it and I'm sorry.

Graham



William Mills wrote:

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 <william(at)wrmills.plus.com>

 

 Mr Singleton,

 

 It saddens me when in such tragic circumstances someone can be so wildly 

 speculative when so few details are known. You assume my father was 

 piloting the plane and assume that it was pilot error. 

 

 Josephine (Nee Mills)

william(at)wrmills.plus.c
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:29 am Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

Thank you Graham, appology accepted. It is a very difficult time for us all.



Josephine

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jp(at)brannenworks.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

There are elements in the crash reports that are

suggestive of composite aircraft response to lightning

strikes.

gcrowder2

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 136
Location: Golden, Colorado USA

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

This is a very unfortunate combination of events for William, Paul, the families,

 and fellow pilots.

   As an aviator, we want to know the exact circumstances that caused the event

 but probably won't know for months, and maybe never, exactly what factors were involved.

   I had a similiar occurence last year when a highly respected pilot went down in

 clear blue conditions only 20 miles from departure on the way to a fly in in

 Oklahoma.  Very sad.

  

                                               Glenn

  



[quote] From: europaflyer_3(at)msn.com

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: South Wales Fatal Europa Crash

 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:16:40 +0100

 

 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <europaflyer_3(at)msn.com>

 

 Joseph,

 

 Nothing I saw in the reports indicated that. Perhaps we should be careful to

 avoid speculating at this stage: I understand that the AAIB are doing their

 usual thorough job and I'm sure we are all anxious to hear informed news of

 the cause of this dreadful tragedy.

 

 Regards,

 Jeremy

 

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