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zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
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 Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: Neighbor's tried to 'Intervene' on my project |
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Though, I sent a letter off list I would also like to add one to this
list. This gent had one Airline Pilot who insisted that GA was a dangerous
situation. Yet I personally know of 4 Air Canada Pilots that own and built
601's and say completely different. One pilot flys an Airbus A320 another
two fly 747's and one I'm not sure about, but they are all PIC on those
big planes. So if I know 4 personally we are at 4 to 1 on the side of the
601's. Surely their are more. This sounds more like saying Brussel sprouts
will kill you, just because I don't like them.
Mark
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Hi Patrick,
My feelings go to you and your wife.
I guess I don't really understand the content of
the warning given to your wife. If it was that
any home built aircraft has some danger
associated with it, then I agree. If it was that
the CH601XL is particularly dangerous in the
field of home built aircraft then I
disagree. While there have been some unfortunate
accidents with XLs recently, the number of
accidents is still very low. I still think the
most dangerous part of any flight in an XL is the
drive to the airport. Cars are really dangerous!
As to airline pilots knowing everything -- I have
serious doubts. They are all competent pilots,
but their experience with experimental aircraft
varies from nothing to being "repeat
offenders". What they do seem to hold in common
is a great respect for following the rules and
being safety conscious. This is what they are trained to respect.
Good luck,
Paul
XL fuselage
do not archive
At 01:49 PM 7/30/2007, you wrote:
>
>
>Last week while I was at Oshkosh, a couple of my
>neighbors came over to my house to talk with my wife.
>
>"We'd like to sit down and talk with you about
>your husband’s airplane project..."
>
>They really scared my wife. 
>
>To make a very long story short, one of my
>neighbors (who moved here from Modesto, CA - you
>guys know what that means) is an airline pilot,
>which to my non-pilot wife means that he knows
>Everything about All Aircraft. He's also a
>fellow EAA member (social member, not a
>builder). For reasons that are not important
>here, suffice it to say that there is nothing
>that I can ever say or demonstrate to him that
>will ever convince him that the 601 XL is a safe
>design. He is quite passionate and vocal about that.
>
>While I don't appreciated that they waited until
>I was gone before coming over, I'm not angry
>because I know that he has my (or at least my
>wife's) best interest and safety at heart.
>
>Be that as it may, support from ones spouse is
>critical in completing an airplane project. So
>in order to arm myself with the latest
>information, I took the opportunity while at
>Oshkosh to speak with several people who's
>technical abilities I greatly respect. People
>who flew their 601's in. The Zenith
>folks. People with real-world experience. And
>people who are builders just like me who face
>the same decisions and the same questions - and
>who came to the same conclusions.
>
>You guys know who you are and I thank you for answering my questions.
>
>All these people helped reassure and reinforce
>for me that the decisions I have made were good
>decisions. Based on that, I believe I was able
>to control the damage and reassure my wife and thus maintain her support.
>
>Today I am more confident than ever that the 601
>XL is the right airplane. I hope to have my
>airframe completed this winter, my engine
>running next spring, and a flying airplane that
>I can bring to Oshkosh. I am really looking
>forward to the day when I can show my own
>completed and flying airplane to some of you
>people who I met in person last week at Oshkosh.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Patrick
>601XL/Corvair
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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: Neighbor's tried to 'Intervene' on my project |
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Re: commercial pilots, experimental aircraft and safety:
Don't forget the guy in Switzerland who mounts a wing with model aircraft
jet engines to his back and jumps out of an airplane. He is a pilot for
Swiss Air.
www.jet-man.com
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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: Neighbor's tried to 'Intervene' on my project |
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Geez Mark,,, Brussel Sprouts WILL kill you, The only two things I will not eat are Brussel Sprouts and Liver..... Just think about it, the function of the liver it to filter out impurities in the blood, kinda like eating an old oil filter... YUCK.. and
do not archive for sure..
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
Though, I sent a letter off list I would also like to add one to this
list. This gent had one Airline Pilot who insisted that GA was a dangerous
situation. Yet I personally know of 4 Air Canada Pilots that own and built
601's and say completely different. One pilot flys an Airbus A320 another
two fly 747's and one I'm not sure about, but they are all PIC on those
big planes. So if I know 4 personally we are at 4 to 1 on the side of the
601's. Surely their are more. This sounds more like saying Brussel sprouts
will kill you, just because I don't like them.
Mark
[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <psm(at)att.net>
Hi Patrick,
My feelings go to you and your wife.
I guess I don't really understand the content of
the warning given to your wife. If it was that
any home built aircraft has some danger
associated with it, then I agree. If it was that
the CH601XL is particularly dangerous in the
field of home built aircraft then I
disagree. While there have been some unfortunate
accidents with XLs recently, the number of
accidents is still very low. I still think the
most dangerous part of any flight in an XL is the
drive to the airport. Cars are really dangerous!
As to airline pilots knowing everything -- I have
serious doubts. They are all competent pilots,
but their experience with experimental aircraft
varies from nothing to being "repeat
offenders". What they do seem to hold in common
is a great respect for following the rules and
being safety conscious. This is what they are trained to respect.
Good luck,
Paul
XL fuselage
do not archive
At 01:49 PM 7/30/2007, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "PatrickW" <pwhoyt(at)yahoo.com>
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>Last week while I was at Oshkosh, a couple of my
>neighbors came over to my house to talk with my wife.
>
>"We'd like to sit down and talk with you about
>your husband’s airplane project..."
>
>They really scared my wife.
>
>To make a very long story short, one of my
>neighbors (who moved here from Modesto, CA - you
>guys know what that means) is an airline pilot,
>which to my non-pilot wife means that he knows
>Everything about All Aircraft. He's also a
>fellow EAA member (social member, not a
>builder). For reasons that are not important
>here, suffice it to say that there is nothing
>that I can ever say or demonstrate to him that
>will ever convince him that the 601 XL is a safe
>design. He is quite passionate and vocal about that.
>
>While I don't appreciated that they waited until
>I was gone before coming over, I'm not angry
>because I know that he has my (or at least my
>wife's) best interest and safety at heart.
>
>Be that as it may, support from ones spouse is
>critical in completing an airplane project. So
>in order to arm myself with the latest
>information, I took the opportunity while at
>Oshkosh to speak with several people who's
>technical abilities I greatly respect. People
>who flew their 601's in. The Zenith
>folks. People with real-world experience. And
>people who are builders just like me who face
>the same decisions and the same questions - and
>who came to the same conclusions.
>
>You guys know who you are and I thank you for answering my questions.
>
>All these people helped reassure and reinforce
>for me that the decisions I have made were good
>decisions. Based on that, I believe I was able
>to control the damage and reassure my wife and thus maintain her support.
>
>Today I am more confident than ever that the 601
>XL is the right airplane. I hope to have my
>airframe completed this winter, my engine
>running next spring, and a flying airplane that
>I can bring to Oshkosh. I am really looking
>forward to the day when I can show my own
>completed and flying airplane to some of you
>people who I met in person last week at Oshkosh.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Patrick
>601XL/Corvair
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