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franklynn19(at)westnet.co
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: Viper Engine

Jon,



I have sent e-mails to those guys and got zero reply. Perhaps because I am

in Australia they don't want to be bothered with me. I was particularly

interested in their wet wing mod also but...nothin'.



Frank



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czech6(at)kellin.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: Viper Engine

what info do you want. I have a Viper.



Bill

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franklynn19(at)westnet.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: Viper Engine

What have you got Bill? I would be very interested in how they went about

the mod. Any specially produced parts to help mate the two together? What

about the wet wing, did you do that too?



Frank



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czech6(at)kellin.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:54 am Post subject: Viper Engine

Mine was the first Viper (Maybe second?) Anyway, you have to build new motor 

mounts, exhaust pipe, we got exhaust from a Strikmaster which uses this 

viper model. Cut the pipe to size. The big deal was getting all the little 

things working; fuel, hydraulics, valves & levers etc. Takes a bit more 

amperage to start. Bigger battery cables and nice expensive battery.

If you get an engine, be sure that it has the starter/generator unit. Big 

Bucks!!



The biggest benefit - manuals are in english. (British you know)



6,000 to 8,000 feet per minute.

90gph at 24,000'. Thats better than most of the trainers. Faster too!



I didn't have the $$ to do the wet wing. I know a guy that has them. Leaks. 

Besides, this is the most uncomfortable jet I have ever flown. 1 1/2 hours 

flying, I want out! I'm a wimp though. The rest of these young jet jockey's 

might have a much tougher ass.



Approx $75,000 to have your jet done. I think is used to be $4,500 for the 

wet wings. Let me know if you want his phone #s.



How come all you guys that have sold your airplanes, feel the need to remind 

the rest of us now, that we own boat anchor's and the gas is to much, and we 

can't afford to fly, gas will be too expensive? You all used to be happy 

owning one? And I remember the guy in the East that took to bashing the L-29 

and we all jumped him to defend our little jets and told him all the great 

times we have. I think you all regret selling. Sellers Remorse!! Come on 

now, admit it.



Mine cost me absolutely nothing to own. If I don't fly it, thats okay. When 

I save a little money and buy some fuel, I still to this day think it was 

the greatest adventure and opportunity in my life. Okay, I admit that after 

the 37th airplane showed up at my hanger I was questioning my wisdom, but 

still a great "Touch-and-Go on the runway of life! (How sappy is that?)



Play nice and still have fun.



Bill

Ernie

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 513

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: Viper Engine

Sellers remorse???? You should have seen the smile on my face when I saw it fly away  Really I had mixed feelings, I did really like the thing, but what good is it, if I cant get it annualed, and cant afford to fly it. I took the money abd bought my boat, and my hangard is getting dry walled and airconditioned as we speak.  



BTW how did the inspection go with Bill C. Was he happy with the plane?



Ernie



On 8/1/07, Bill <czech6(at)kellin.net  (czech6(at)kellin.net)> wrote:[quote]--> L29-List message posted by: "Bill" < czech6(at)kellin.net (czech6(at)kellin.net)>



Mine was the first Viper (Maybe second?) Anyway, you have to build new motor

mounts, exhaust pipe, we got exhaust from a Strikmaster which uses this

viper model. Cut the pipe to size. The big deal was getting all the little 

things working; fuel, hydraulics, valves & levers etc. Takes a bit more

amperage to start. Bigger battery cables and nice expensive battery.

If you get an engine, be sure that it has the starter/generator unit. Big 

Bucks!!



The biggest benefit - manuals are in english. (British you know)



6,000 to 8,000 feet per minute.

90gph at 24,000'. Thats better than most of the trainers. Faster too!



I didn't have the $$ to do the wet wing. I know a guy that has them. Leaks. 

Besides, this is the most uncomfortable jet I have ever flown. 1 1/2 hours

flying, I want out! I'm a wimp though. The rest of these young jet jockey's

might have a much tougher ass.



Approx $75,000 to have your jet done. I think is used to be $4,500 for the 

wet wings. Let me know if you want his phone #s.



How come all you guys that have sold your airplanes, feel the need to remind

the rest of us now, that we own boat anchor's and the gas is to much, and we

 can't afford to fly, gas will be too expensive? You all used to be happy

owning one? And I remember the guy in the East that took to bashing the L-29

and we all jumped him to defend our little jets and told him all the great 

times we have. I think you all regret selling. Sellers Remorse!! Come on

now, admit it.



Mine cost me absolutely nothing to own. If I don't fly it, thats okay. When

I save a little money and buy some fuel, I still to this day think it was 

the greatest adventure and opportunity in my life. Okay, I admit that after

the 37th airplane showed up at my hanger I was questioning my wisdom, but

still a great "Touch-and-Go on the runway of life! (How sappy is that?)  [quote][b]

czech6(at)kellin.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: Viper Engine

Went well. 110% humidity!

 He likes it. We flew about 5 hours while I was  there. I think I might go down and finish him up if he wants.

  

 Are you going to have dances in the  hanger?

  

 Whats the latest CJ6 news?

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Ernie

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 513

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: Viper Engine

Gonna have a hangar party when done. CJ is fine, I finally washed her, and she looks good enough to date 



Ernie



On 8/1/07, Bill < czech6(at)kellin.net (czech6(at)kellin.net)> wrote:[quote]       Went well. 110% humidity!

 He likes it. We flew about 5 hours while I was  there. I think I might go down and finish him up if he wants.

  

 Are you going to have dances in the  hanger?

  

 Whats the latest CJ6 news?

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franklynn19(at)westnet.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: Viper Engine

Hi Bill,



Thanks for that. I thought the wet wing might have some problems. I am very

interested in the Viper but at the moment I can see $75,000.00 would be

better spent on a spare engine and fuel and maybe a spare aircraft going on

current prices! It is something worth considering though if original engines

and spares become a drama. I like the rate of climb on offer.



Regards,



Frank 



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czech6(at)kellin.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: Viper Engine

You can get an engine for under $20,000. Do it yourself???



I do believe that the leaks were fixed. I am sure I don't want to sit for 

another hour of flying, (110 gallons, 55 per wing) it would be nice to have 

the reserve.



Bill

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franklynn19(at)westnet.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: Viper Engine

If I could get some written assistance or information on how the guys did

theirs I would certainly look into it. The reserve fuel would be nice to

have also and perhaps for a longer than normal ferry. One of the hurdles

here is because we don't use 'experimental' for warbirds we need to have a

Part 35 engineer approve all mods.



Frank



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