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dvonruden(at)generalequip
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:31 am Post subject: L-29 Discussion

From: Dennis Von Ruden 

 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM

 To: 'l29-list(at)matronics.com'

 Subject: L-29 Discussion  

I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding L-29 ownership that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be time to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other have, I purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box from Romania with more written documentation and history than I will probably ever utilize. I’m just in the process of beginning to restore it. Some comments:  

<![if !supportLists]>1)       <![endif]>When I was a kid, I asked my father many times why he did not purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. His answer was always the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will always want to own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will never happen. The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for the extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to operate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting some cheap flying.  

<![if !supportLists]>2)       <![endif]>As I work myself through my middle 50s, it is very apparent that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people. Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or later, the L-29 will be worth something. Don’t know exactly how much and when, but history has proven that it will gain in value.  

<![if !supportLists]>3)       <![endif]>The only reason why I did not purchase an existing, flyable aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and nut is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me, that is very important. It’s a good, tight airplane that is safe and will not nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the airport to look at them.  

<![if !supportLists]>4)       <![endif]>I know that when the L-29 is completed, I will have more into it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my expectations and standards. Along the way, it won’t take food off the table and as I have said to my wife many times, it’s still cheaper than a girlfriend.  

<![if !supportLists]>5)       <![endif]>There is something to be said about ownership. It’s not that I have a neon sign mounted on my head flashing to the whole world that I own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on top of it. But, to a type A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplishment that I have something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does not have. I’m not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I shut off the hanger lights. I’m not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn’t know there was even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard.  

<![if !supportLists]>6)       <![endif]>I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to be able to own an ex military jet in a country that actually will allow you to fly it. (Won’t discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are people out there trying to figure out how to take our life style away because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief that no person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life. I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a guess.  

<![if !supportLists]>7)       <![endif]>Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to significantly affect my ability to fly? It will always be a factor. Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and work a little bit harder and smarter. I didn’t work this hard, to get this far, just to give up.  

<![if !supportLists]>       <![endif]>I feel the L-29 owners need to work together even better in the areas of replacement parts and training to help ensure we keep flying our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and responsible manner.   

Thanks.  

Dennis  

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507.451.5510 (P)  

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jonboede(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: L-29 Discussion

My friend Scott Smith put it best... "There are six billion people on the 

planet, and excluding a bit of rounding error, approximately six billion of 

them will never get to do this."  



Jon

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		  From: "Dennis Von Ruden" <dvonruden(at)generalequip.com>

Reply-To: l29-list(at)matronics.com

To: <l29-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: L-29 Discussion

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:31:09 -0500



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From: Dennis Von Ruden

Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:18 PM

To: 'l29-list(at)matronics.com'

Subject: L-29 Discussion



I have read with great interest the various perspectives regarding L-29

ownership that have been offered on this list. Thought it might be time

to offer my two cents worth. I am an L-29 owner. As a few other have, I

purchased my aircraft from Bob Schwartz. It came in a big box from

Romania with more written documentation and history than I will probably

ever utilize. I'm just in the process of beginning to restore it. Some

comments:



1)       When I was a kid, I asked my father many times why he did not

purchase a few of those $500 Mustangs after WWII. His answer was always

the same; he simply did not have an extra $500. He also mentioned not to

make the same mistakes as he had. Lesson learned. I will always want to

own and fly a Mustang but am smart enough to know it will never happen.

The L-29 was cheap to purchase. I can purchase a lot of fuel for the

extra 1-1/2 to 2 million saved. And, Mustangs are not exactly cheap to

operate either! I did not purchase the L-29 with the thought of getting

some cheap flying.



2)       As I work myself through my middle 50s, it is very apparent

that the only thing that does not gain in value as it ages is people.

Which is a sad commentary about our society. Sooner or later, the L-29

will be worth something. Don't know exactly how much and when, but

history has proven that it will gain in value.



3)       The only reason why I did not purchase an existing, flyable

aircraft is because I want everything my way. I want it to meet my

expectations and standards. Just completed the restoration of a Nanchang

CJ6A. I have more money in that aircraft than it could get out of it

today. I knew that going into the project. But, I know every bolt and

nut is good. Everything looks perfect and works perfect. And, for me,

that is very important. It's a good, tight airplane that is safe and

will not nickel and dime me to death. Hopefully, my son will stop by the

rest home and take me flying in them. Well, at least take me out to the

airport to look at them.



4)       I know that when the L-29 is completed, I will have more into

it than it is probably worth on the market. But, it will also meet my

expectations and standards. Along the way, it won't take food off the

table and as I have said to my wife many times, it's still cheaper than

a girlfriend.



5)       There is something to be said about ownership. It's not that I

have a neon sign mounted on my head flashing to the whole world that I

own a jet. An ex military jet from Romania on top of it. But, to a type

A personality, it does give me a sense of accomplishment that I have

something that 99.99999999 percent of the reminder of this world does

not have. I'm not trying to come across as being sick or crazy, but it

does make me feel good inside (whatever that means) when I shut off the

hanger lights. I'm not a bragger and I do not have one of those shirts

that says I won because I have the most toys. I didn't know there was

even a contest. I work very hard and I try to play very hard.



6)       I feel ownership actually makes you a more humble and better

person. I believe I am one of few, lucky people to be able to own an ex

military jet in a country that actually will allow you to fly it. (Won't

discuss politics in this thread.) All during a time when there are

people out there trying to figure out how to take our life style away

because they do not approve of our God. It reaffirms my belief that no

person or government is going to stop me in achieving my goals in life.

I would bet that the majority of L-29 owners are hard driving, very

focused people that readily accept challenges and responsibly. Just a

guess.



7)       Is fuel expensive? Absolutely! Is the cost of fuel going to

significantly affect my ability to fly? It will always be a factor.

Unlike Paris Hilton, I still need to go to work each day and make some

money. But, it will also be a contributing reason to go out and work a

little bit harder and smarter. I didn't work this hard, to get this far,

just to give up.



       I feel the L-29 owners need to work together even better in the

areas of replacement parts and training to help ensure we keep flying

our aircraft on a regular basis and do it in a safe and responsible

manner.



Thanks.



Dennis



  Dennis Von Ruden



General Equipment Company



507.451.5510 (P)



507.451.5511 (F)



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Bcolombo(at)twcny.rr.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: L-29 Discussion

well  said....

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ca6209(at)flash.net
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: L-29 Discussion

I would have written this piece but I type with 2 fingers.  

L29 drivers are the most friendly.  

Gary Cole  

     

       

  

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czech6(at)kellin.net
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: L-29 Discussion

Where are you located?

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czech6(at)kellin.net
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: L-29 Discussion

Funny how the "EX" owners have turned on our  airplanes. It used to be good enough for them too?????

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SD737(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: L-29 Discussion

The L-29 is a good basic jet trainer, but for about the same fuel burn the  L-39 offers a ride that is at least worth the $$$$$$$$ blowing out the tail  pipe.

  

 I've found the next best thing to owning one of these "green house gas  burners" is to have a friend that owns both an L-29 & L-39 who lets you  fly it whenever you I feel the need to drop 500 bucks and go out and  contribute to global warming for an hour.

  

 As far as it being a P-51 in 50 years, well, I'm not counting on it and  more importantly, I probably won't be alive at that point.  It's  a nice thought though.      

  

 Anyone coming out to the Reno Air Races this year?

  

  

  

  



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czech6(at)kellin.net
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: L-29 Discussion

To many L-29's to annual.

 Scott did you get my other E mails re parts?

  

 Thanks

  

 Bill

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dvonruden(at)generalequip
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: L-29 Discussion

I’m located in Owatonna, Minnesota. In order to get an engineering degree I had to give up something. I had to make a choice in high school between chemistry and learning how to type. I chose chemistry. I should have learned how to type. I’m now up to four fingers on a good day.   

     

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General  Equipment Company  

507.451.5510 (P)  

507.451.5511 (F)  

dvonruden(at)generalequip.com  

        

  

From: Bill [mailto:czech6(at)kellin.net] 

 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:12 PM

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colyergreg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: L-29 Discussion

Very well said as well.Â  You are right on the mark!!Â  Brian, any luck with those engine mounts for the vipers?Â  lets get it done

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colyergreg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: L-29 Discussion

Again very well said!

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