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av8rps(at)tznet.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!

Hi Gang,



Check out EAA's web videos to see a couple of our very own making the 

spotlight.....well, sort of.  I'm sure not in a way they would like to be 

known for, but attention just the same.  The direct link is 

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid626910413/bclid1119199227/bctid1137752093 

(works poor at best on dial up, so hopefully most of you have high 

speed.....unlike me)



I'm not just picking on these guys, as my Kitfox also got a little video 

attention at the seaplane base (see the EAA Seaplane Base web video) by 

having some mechanical difficulties as well.  I was somewhat spared as you 

can't tell my Fox is broken by seeing it sit on the wooden seaplane ramp, 

but it was for sure broken at the time.  Nothing major, but broke just the 

same...



I guess all we can all do now is just laugh at all of it.  Even though it's 

probably not the best kind, at least we gave the world a little more 

exposure to a Kitfox (chuckle)



Paul Seehafer

Model IV-1200 912ul IVO on amphibs



if for any reason the link doesn't work for anyone, try 

http://www.airventure.org:80/video/index.html?videoId=1127687111

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!

At 01:37 PM 8/14/2007, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Check out EAA's web videos to see a couple of our very own making 

the spotlight.....well, sort of.  I'm sure not in a way they would 

like to be known for, but attention just the same.


	


Hey that's our own Lynn Farnsworth! He's a star! (I wonder what was 

wrong with the Jab?) (Man that guy gets around. Last I saw him he was 

at Lowell's in Cameron Park, CA.)

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.



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Guy Buchanan
Deceased K-IV 1200
A glider pilot too.

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!

I just got back to dealing with my email, and the 200+ messages.  Is  

there another Lynn with a "broken" Kitfox? Who is Lynn Farnsworth? Is  

he the yellow 'fox with the broken prop? Good to see that he got it   

going again. I'm still downloading the video called "Emergency  

Aircraft Repair" and it's taking FOREVER on this dial-up line.

If you're referring to me, Guy, I had the battery die on my plane  

while lining up for the "Homebuilder's Review". I had them tow it  

over to Emergency Aircraft Repair so I could charge the battery. It  

started just fine later that evening.

What happened was that during the looooooooong taxi down to the  

threshold of 36, I had to taxi slowly behind other planes, and my  

engine loaded up, and I couldn't very well clean it out without  

revving it up and taking a chance on gobbling up somebody's rudder in  

front of me. Then when I went to shut it down, I usually shut off the  

main fuel valve and let the engine run for a few minutes to lower the  

amount of fuel in the bowl. Then during a restart, the engine will  

start immediately. If I miss doing this (and I did), I have to treat  

it like a flooded car engine, and hold full open throttle 'til it  

starts...about 10-15 seconds. When it didn't start right away, I went  

to "choke mode" and this only worsened the problem, then the battery  

began to get low, and finally gave up the ghost. I had left the  

master on the night before, charging my cell phone, and this took a  

little bit out of the battery, but it started fine just before  

heading for the Homebuilder's Review. It was just all that taxiing,  

loading up of the engine, and neglecting my normal shutdown/starting  

procedures that caused that embarrassing scene in front of the  

"amassed thousands" who had all come to see the #3 fly....yeah,  

RIGHT!!  : )

Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/369+ hrs

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On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Guy Buchanan wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 At 01:37 PM 8/14/2007, you wrote:

> Check out EAA's web videos to see a couple of our very own making  

> the spotlight.....well, sort of.  I'm sure not in a way they would  

> like to be known for, but attention just the same.

 Hey that's our own Lynn Farnsworth! He's a star! (I wonder what was  

 wrong with the Jab?) (Man that guy gets around. Last I saw him he  

 was at Lowell's in Cameron Park, CA.)

 Guy Buchanan

 San Diego, CA

 K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Michel

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 966
Location: Norway

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!

On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:58 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Then when I went to shut it down, I usually shut off the main fuel 

 valve and let the engine run for a few minutes to lower the amount of 

 fuel in the bowl. Then during a restart, the engine will start 

 immediately.


	


That's interesting, Lynn. I also need a few seconds on the starter if I 

stop my Jabiru then start it again say, ten minutes later. I thought it 

was the opposite happening; the heat of the engine evaporates the fuel 

in the carburettor. But your experience is that it is flooding.

I think I will try your method the next time I know I have to start 

again a warm engine.



Cheers,

Michel Verheughe

Norway

Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200

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Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!

At 10:58 AM 8/22/2007, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  If you're referring to me, Guy, I had the battery die on my plane

while lining up for the "Homebuilder's Review". I had them tow it

over to Emergency Aircraft Repair so I could charge the battery. It

started just fine later that evening.


	


LOL! Man I could screw up a wet dream! Sorry Lynn. I thought of you 

and another name popped out. I'm glad to hear it was no big deal. It 

was a nice video, though.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.



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Guy Buchanan
Deceased K-IV 1200
A glider pilot too.

kirkhull(at)kc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!

I flew in to Brodhead and then on to OSH the next day stayed the week and

made it home to Kansas City with no problems other then weather. 205AK (red

classic 4 with a Subaru) performed flawlessly.  



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:42 am Post subject: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!

I got that hot tip from somebody on the Jabiru List, I think. What I  

usually do is to land, taxi toward a parking place, and when I'm  

about a minute or two from there, or about 200 feet short of parking,  

I shut off the main fuel valve on the console. I've even had it quit  

a few feet from the parking place, in which case I'll just turn it on  

again, start it and shut off the main valve again, and continue to  

taxi. Since I started to do this, it starts every time. If I forget  

to do this, I have to treat it like a flooded engine, and give it  

full throttle until it starts.

I can't figure out how you can flood an updraft carburetor, but this  

system cures it, whatever is happening.

Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/369+ hrs

On Aug 22, 2007, at 3:01 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:58 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:

> Then when I went to shut it down, I usually shut off the main fuel  

> valve and let the engine run for a few minutes to lower the amount  

> of fuel in the bowl. Then during a restart, the engine will start  

> immediately.

 That's interesting, Lynn. I also need a few seconds on the starter  

 if I stop my Jabiru then start it again say, ten minutes later. I  

 thought it was the opposite happening; the heat of the engine  

 evaporates the fuel in the carburettor. But your experience is that  

 it is flooding.

 I think I will try your method the next time I know I have to start  

 again a warm engine.

 Cheers,

 Michel Verheughe

 Norway

 Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:47 am Post subject: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!

Nice video, except for that old bald guy who was working on my plane!  

Wonder who that was...I thought all this time that all pilots were  

young and handsome, like John Wayne and Errol Flynn...

Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/369+ hrs

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On Aug 22, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 At 10:58 AM 8/22/2007, you wrote:

> If you're referring to me, Guy, I had the battery die on my plane

> while lining up for the "Homebuilder's Review". I had them tow it

> over to Emergency Aircraft Repair so I could charge the battery. It

> started just fine later that evening.

 LOL! Man I could screw up a wet dream! Sorry Lynn. I thought of you  

 and another name popped out. I'm glad to hear it was no big deal.  

 It was a nice video, though.

 Guy Buchanan

 San Diego, CA

 K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

 Do not archive

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!

Well, in our campsite we had one "faulty" Jabiru (mine) and another  

non-starting Rotax, who I will not name...I'll let him 'fess up.



Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/369+ hrs

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On Aug 22, 2007, at 10:19 PM, kirk hull wrote:



[quote] 



 I flew in to Brodhead and then on to OSH the next day stayed the  

 week and

 made it home to Kansas City with no problems other then weather.  

 205AK (red

 classic 4 with a Subaru) performed flawlessly.



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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Michel

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 966
Location: Norway

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:55 am Post subject: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!

 	  Quote: 	
		   From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt(at)jps.net]

 I can't figure out how you can flood an updraft carburetor, but this  

 system cures it, whatever is happening.


	


Thanks, Lynn, I'll try that too. Funny that good Jabiru tips must come from ... the Kitfox list! 



Cheers,

Michel Verheughe

Norway

Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200



PS: Yes I also thought that all pilots were handsome; what's why I started flying in the first place but ... looking lately at the mirror ... I have doubts! 



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