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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: PMag Preflight Check Reply with quote

Peter and Mike,
You both said you do not recommend checking the PMag internal alternator before each flight. Will you please expand on your reasoning?
Thanks,
Stan Sutterfield

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I think I would do as you suggest and not check the P-mag internal alternator every
flight either.




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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: PMag Preflight Check Reply with quote

Stan,

I looked back at what I wrote and I can't seem to find where I would recommend that anyone not check the onboard alternator function of the P-mag at the beginning of each and every flight.

But (I think I) would not do so as (I) gained confidence in those units. Just a personal thing Stan, I would likely still do the mag drop check, old habits die hard.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: PMag Preflight Check Reply with quote

Hi Stan,

I don't think I recommended not to check the internal generator, just
that I don't do it. The generator is a back-up to a back-up, as the
ignition typically uses power from the alternator, then it could use
battery power, or it could use generator power, and the engine will
continue to run on the magneto alone in a pinch. There is certainly
nothing wrong with checking it every flight, I just don't do it.

My choice is not to do a complete run up check on (usually) other than
the first flight of the day, I check for dead cut, check for normal
temperatures & pressures, carry out the normal before take-off checks
and go - probably my glider towing background showing through. I have
nearly 300 hours on the aeroplane and am familiar with the normal feel
and have seen/felt/heard several abnormal 'feels'. I don't get too
bunched over systems check when the systems have show themselves to be
reliable in my aeroplane, operated the way I operate it.

Yours, Peter

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: PMag Preflight Check Reply with quote

I have two pmags, total time now 265 hours. This includes one replacement and both sent in for updates during the annual. After each reinstall I check to insure the mags were working at my idle setting. Both were.

I didn't take the time to adjust the idle abnormally low to find the cut off of each Pmag. (I did the first time) As long as they work at my idle setting I was happy.

I have my panel set up so everything to start works from Left to Right and reverse for shut down.

My process is as follows, Pmag switched breakers, ON, Master On, full rich yada yada yada.

On run up, RPM 1700, key switch on both. Check left, back to Both, Check Right, back to Both. Done deal. If there is a problem you'll know there.

Why do anything different?

During the one failure I had in flight (an internal magnet failure of my left Pmag) I switched to the Right mag and proceeded on safely. If you have a sudden rise in temps, rough running, loss of power, switch mags to isolate and find out if it is a mag issue.

I firmly believe people are getting them in the set up mode and messing up the timing. Set them up and leave them alone!!!

Darwin N. Barrie
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: PMag Preflight Check Reply with quote

Peter and Mike,
I must have misread your postings. That's easy to do sometimes.
I haven't had the pleasure of flying the same aircraft all the time - not to mention one I built. So, I can understand getting to know the airplane very well and not needing a complete check on every takeoff.
Stan Sutterfield
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I don't think I recommended not to check the internal generator, just
that I don't do it. The generator is a back-up to a back-up, as the
ignition typically uses power from the alternator, then it could use
battery power, or it could use generator power, and the engine will
continue to run on the magneto alone in a pinch. There is certainly
nothing wrong with checking it every flight, I just don't do it.

My choice is not to do a complete run up check on (usually) other than
the first flight of the day, I check for dead cut, check for normal
temperatures & pressures, carry out the normal before take-off checks
and go - probably my glider towing background showing through. I have
nearly 300 hours on the aeroplane and am familiar with the normal feel
and have seen/felt/heard several abnormal 'feels'. I don't get too
bunched over systems check when the systems have show themselves to be
reliable in my aeroplane, operated the way I operate it.




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