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ddnebert
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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:32 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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I have installed the wingtip lights and need to cut and install the clear plastic lens on the end. What tool should I use to cut and trim what seems to be a somewhat flexible plastic? Words of advice here?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:53 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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I used a Dremmel tool with a cutoff disk to rough cut and sandpaper to
finish. Best if the glass is not cold (shouldn't be an issue in this hot
weather)
John Testement
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:41 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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Same here. Using a rough grit sanding disk on an angle die grinder for
getting it close and a fine grit for finishing also works. You can use
tin snips to get it started, but you don't want to use that very close to
the final line because the plastic can fracture from cutting that way.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
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John Testement wrote:
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I used a Dremmel tool with a cutoff disk to rough cut and sandpaper to
finish. Best if the glass is not cold (shouldn't be an issue in this hot
weather)
John Testement
jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Paint prep, interior, and LOTS of little stuff
do not archive
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:06 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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This is exactly what I did....snips to rough cut, die grinder with
cutoff wheel to get closer. Then I think a vixen file or sander to
get it right where I wanted it, with of course fine sanding when
finishing to prevent cracking.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Jesse Saint wrote:
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Same here. Using a rough grit sanding disk on an angle die grinder for
getting it close and a fine grit for finishing also works. You can use
tin snips to get it started, but you don't want to use that very close to
the final line because the plastic can fracture from cutting that way.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
John Testement wrote:
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> <jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com>
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> I used a Dremmel tool with a cutoff disk to rough cut and sandpaper to
> finish. Best if the glass is not cold (shouldn't be an issue in this hot
> weather)
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> John Testement
> jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
> 40321
> Richmond, VA
> Paint prep, interior, and LOTS of little stuff
> do not archive
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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Jesse Saint wrote:
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Same here. Using a rough grit sanding disk on an angle die grinder for
getting it close and a fine grit for finishing also works. You can use
tin snips to get it started, but you don't want to use that very close to
the final line because the plastic can fracture from cutting that way.
Using the tin snips to cut the plastic lens under water MAY lessen the
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chances of fracture. I've used this method to cut thin glass (not FG)
for instrument and meter lenses, but never tried it with plastics.
Linn
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dmaib@me.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:15 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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On the subject of wingtip lenses, we finished the first one and are wondering if anyone sees a need to use more fasteners than the two called out in the plans. It seems like a couple more along the edge might be called for. What have others done?
David Maib
40559
On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 09:25AM, "linn Walters" <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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Jesse Saint wrote:
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>Same here. Using a rough grit sanding disk on an angle die grinder for
>getting it close and a fine grit for finishing also works. You can use
>tin snips to get it started, but you don't want to use that very close to
>the final line because the plastic can fracture from cutting that way.
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Using the tin snips to cut the plastic lens under water MAY lessen the
chances of fracture. I've used this method to cut thin glass (not FG)
for instrument and meter lenses, but never tried it with plastics.
Linn
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>do not archive
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>Jesse Saint
>Saint Aviation, Inc.
>jesse(at)saintaviation.com
>www.saintaviation.com
>352-427-0285
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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We have put a couple extra on the edge running front and back, not on the
sides.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
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Fax: 815-377-3694
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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I believe I added at least one more on each edge, in the middle.
It may have been 2 more. I just couldn't trust that 2 screws
would hold it forever. Also, it fits tighter and nicer with
more screws in my case.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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David Maib wrote:
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On the subject of wingtip lenses, we finished the first one and are wondering if anyone sees a need to use more fasteners than the two called out in the plans. It seems like a couple more along the edge might be called for. What have others done?
David Maib
40559
On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 09:25AM, "linn Walters" <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> Jesse Saint wrote:
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>> Same here. Using a rough grit sanding disk on an angle die grinder for
>> getting it close and a fine grit for finishing also works. You can use
>> tin snips to get it started, but you don't want to use that very close to
>> the final line because the plastic can fracture from cutting that way.
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> Using the tin snips to cut the plastic lens under water MAY lessen the
> chances of fracture. I've used this method to cut thin glass (not FG)
> for instrument and meter lenses, but never tried it with plastics.
> Linn
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>> do not archive
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>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse(at)saintaviation.com
>> www.saintaviation.com
>> 352-427-0285
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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I would suggest you consider using Click-bond fasteners to attach the lens
instead of riveted platenuts. They worked much better for me.
John Testement
jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
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carlosh(at)sec-engr.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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I'm building a -7A but you guys are giving me great ideas! For that I
thank you! Has any one used the EZ-Point Nut & Stud from ACS for this
type of thing? I think that would look nice at the lens. Glass em' from
the back and all you'd see is the screw thru the lens and into the tip.
Carlos in AZ
John Testement wrote:
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I would suggest you consider using Click-bond fasteners to attach the lens
instead of riveted platenuts. They worked much better for me.
John Testement
jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Paint prep, interior, and LOTS of little stuff
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dmaib@me.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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John,
That sounds like a good idea. Do you have any photo's of your installation?
Thanks,
David Maib
40559
On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 01:59PM, "John Testement" <jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com> wrote:
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I would suggest you consider using Click-bond fasteners to attach the lens
instead of riveted platenuts. They worked much better for me.
John Testement
jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Paint prep, interior, and LOTS of little stuff
do not archive
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dmaib@me.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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Thanks Deems,
That is exactly what I had in mind.
David Maib
40559
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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Just to be the different one, I used only two screws and I have a great fit and so far I've had no problems.
I've flown near the Vne 200 kts TAS and no problems. Adding more screws makes sense though.
It is not like you take the lens on and off very often and it doesn't hurt.
So those of you with 2 screws, don't get too nervous. It will work great and you will be able to care a couple more
dimes in your pockets at gross.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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David,
I replaced the platenuts at the paint shop and did not take pix. When I get
some later I'll post them.
John
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LarryRosen
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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I thought it needed more screws. Here are links to two photos.
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/Log/Wings/Tips/slides/2005-12-10_RV10-014.html>
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/Log/Wings/Tips/slides/2005-12-10_RV10-015.html>
Larry Rosen
David Maib wrote:
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On the subject of wingtip lenses, we finished the first one and are wondering if anyone sees a need to use more fasteners than the two called out in the plans. It seems like a couple more along the edge might be called for. What have others done?
David Maib
40559
On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 09:25AM, "linn Walters" <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> Jesse Saint wrote:
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>> Same here. Using a rough grit sanding disk on an angle die grinder for
>> getting it close and a fine grit for finishing also works. You can use
>> tin snips to get it started, but you don't want to use that very close to
>> the final line because the plastic can fracture from cutting that way.
>>
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> Using the tin snips to cut the plastic lens under water MAY lessen the
> chances of fracture. I've used this method to cut thin glass (not FG)
> for instrument and meter lenses, but never tried it with plastics.
> Linn
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>> do not archive
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>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse(at)saintaviation.com
>> www.saintaviation.com
>> 352-427-0285
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dmaib@me.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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That really looks great, Deems. Is that your airplane? What is the material that is covering the nut plates?
David
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: Wingtip lens |
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I also thought we needed a few more screws:
That should do it!
Robin
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Wingtip lens |
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Thanks, all. I'll try the cutoff wheel approach I think. I got the strobes (from strobes-n-more with controller for $149 total), position lights (from SNF vendor with glass globes for $50 each, and the halogen landing lights installed. Took time out tonight to pressure test the fuel tanks using the valve and balloon and soapsuds method. Pleased to report it worked wonderfully and I have not a single leak! Now to screw the fuel tanks back on completely and install the heated pitot ('50s era Kollsman) before attacking the bottom skins. That's the plan this weekend - finish the wings!
OK, now - any suggestions on where to find glass globes to cover the strobes? I know it'll be inside the plexiglass but think extra protection is in order...
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