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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas Reply with quote

Anyone using the AV-532 VOR ANTENNA sold by Spruce? If so, does it work well? Will it also work as a VOR/GS antenna? Spruce is telling me it will.

I'm building a 'ten' and having a problem with the "V" shaped Glide Slope/VOR antenna Spruce is selling, 11-17923 CI-158C "V" DIPOLE VOR/GS, fitting in the top of my vertical stab and clearing the rudder counter balance when it swings. The VOR AV-532 sold by Spruce,(which comes straight out for an inch or two then 45's back and clears the rudder counter balance nicely) will work and Spruce says it will also work as a Glide Slope antenna as well. The catalogue says nothing about GS capability though. Is anyone using the AV-532 VOR ANTENNA sold by Spruce as a VOR/GS antenna? If so, does it receive the GS well?

How about the COMANT CI-193 GLIDESCOPE ANTENNA
half wave dipole as an alternative? Will it work well in my wingtip? Could it double as a VOR antenna too or do I have to purchase a seperate VOR antenna?

What do you think? Any recommendations? Any alternatives?

Chuck Weyant

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:49 am    Post subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas Reply with quote

Bob Archer's Sportcraft wing tip antenna is the best on the market. It has
worked for almost 10-years for me as both VOR and Glide Slope. Depending on
your radio, you may need a splitter. My SL-30 only has ONE input for NAV and
that does both the VOR and Glide Slope.
See Model 1.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/archer_antennas.php

Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,051 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck(at)chuckdirect.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:06:56 -0700

Anyone using the AV-532 VOR ANTENNA sold by Spruce? If so, does it work
well? Will it also work as a VOR/GS antenna? Spruce is telling me it will.

I'm building a 'ten' and having a problem with the "V" shaped Glide
Slope/VOR antenna Spruce is selling, 11-17923 CI-158C "V" DIPOLE VOR/GS,
fitting in the top of my vertical stab and clearing the rudder counter
balance when it swings. The VOR AV-532 sold by Spruce,(which comes straight
out for an inch or two then 45's back and clears the rudder counter balance
nicely) will work and Spruce says it will also work as a Glide Slope antenna
as well. The catalogue says nothing about GS capability though. Is anyone
using the AV-532 VOR ANTENNA sold by Spruce as a VOR/GS antenna? If so,
does it receive the GS well?

How about the COMANT CI-193 GLIDESCOPE ANTENNA
half wave dipole as an alternative? Will it work well in my wingtip? Could
it double as a VOR antenna too or do I have to purchase a seperate VOR
antenna?

What do you think? Any recommendations? Any alternatives?

Chuck Weyant

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas Reply with quote

I've got the AV-532 mounted under the VS on the belly of my -7A. It is
hooked up to my SL-30 and works well for VOR/LOC/GS.

But, if I had to do it again, I would have put in the Archer wingtip antenna.

Scott
RV-7A N653S
217 hours
On 9/1/07, RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:


Bob Archer's Sportcraft wing tip antenna is the best on the market. It has
worked for almost 10-years for me as both VOR and Glide Slope. Depending on
your radio, you may need a splitter. My SL-30 only has ONE input for NAV and
that does both the VOR and Glide Slope.
See Model 1.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/archer_antennas.php

Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,051 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck(at)chuckdirect.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:06:56 -0700

Anyone using the AV-532 VOR ANTENNA sold by Spruce? If so, does it work
well? Will it also work as a VOR/GS antenna? Spruce is telling me it will.

I'm building a 'ten' and having a problem with the "V" shaped Glide
Slope/VOR antenna Spruce is selling, 11-17923 CI-158C "V" DIPOLE VOR/GS,
fitting in the top of my vertical stab and clearing the rudder counter
balance when it swings. The VOR AV-532 sold by Spruce,(which comes straight
out for an inch or two then 45's back and clears the rudder counter balance
nicely) will work and Spruce says it will also work as a Glide Slope antenna
as well. The catalogue says nothing about GS capability though. Is anyone
using the AV-532 VOR ANTENNA sold by Spruce as a VOR/GS antenna? If so,
does it receive the GS well?

How about the COMANT CI-193 GLIDESCOPE ANTENNA
half wave dipole as an alternative? Will it work well in my wingtip? Could
it double as a VOR antenna too or do I have to purchase a seperate VOR
antenna?

What do you think? Any recommendations? Any alternatives?

Chuck Weyant

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http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas Reply with quote

I have to second Gary's comments about the Archer Antenna. I just installed one and it really improved the performance over my previous antenna (except for when the VOR is off the opposite wing tip). I also have a SL-30 (best nav/com I have ever used). Any VOR antenna can be used as a GS antenna, it depends more on the radio. From what I have read, a VOR antenna is close enough so that modern avionics can separate out the signal well. Older units may require a splitter, but you still may not get the best performance unless your radio was designed to use a VOR antenna. So again, follow the instructions of the radio. The antenna does not matter in that regard.

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net


On 9/1/07, RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com (rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com (rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com)>

Bob Archer's Sportcraft wing tip antenna is the best on the market. It has
worked for almost 10-years for me as both VOR and Glide Slope. Depending on
your radio, you may need a splitter. My SL-30 only has ONE input for NAV and
that does both the VOR and Glide Slope.
See Model 1.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/archer_antennas.php

Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,051 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Chuck Weyant" < chuck(at)chuckdirect.com (chuck(at)chuckdirect.com)>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
To: <rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:06:56 -0700

Anyone using the AV-532 VOR ANTENNA sold by Spruce? If so, does it work
well? Will it also work as a VOR/GS antenna? Spruce is telling me it will.

I'm building a 'ten' and having a problem with the "V" shaped Glide
Slope/VOR antenna Spruce is selling, 11-17923 CI-158C "V" DIPOLE VOR/GS,
fitting in the top of my vertical stab and clearing the rudder counter
balance when it swings. The VOR AV-532 sold by Spruce,(which comes straight
out for an inch or two then 45's back and clears the rudder counter balance
nicely) will work and Spruce says it will also work as a Glide Slope antenna
as well. The catalogue says nothing about GS capability though. Is anyone
using the AV-532 VOR ANTENNA sold by Spruce as a VOR/GS antenna? If so,
does it receive the GS well?

How about the COMANT CI-193 GLIDESCOPE ANTENNA
half wave dipole as an alternative? Will it work well in my wingtip? Could
it double as a VOR antenna too or do I have to purchase a seperate VOR
antenna?

What do you think? Any recommendations? Any alternatives?

Chuck Weyant

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas Reply with quote

Hey thanks guys. I've got a Garmin 430...going to the manual for further info (duhh)!

By the way, how is the Archer Antenna for ease of installation?
Chuck
[quote] Subject: Re: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas


I have to second Gary's comments about the Archer Antenna. I just installed one and it really improved the performance over my previous antenna (except for when the VOR is off the opposite wing tip). I also have a SL-30 (best nav/com I have ever used). Any VOR antenna can be used as a GS antenna, it depends more on the radio. From what I have read, a VOR antenna is close enough so that modern avionics can separate out the signal well. Older units may require a splitter, but you still may not get the best performance unless your radio was designed to use a VOR antenna. So again, follow the instructions of the radio. The antenna does not matter in that regard.

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net


On 9/1/07, RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com (rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com (rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com)>

Bob Archer's Sportcraft wing tip antenna is the best on the market. It has
worked for almost 10-years for me as both VOR and Glide Slope. Depending on
your radio, you may need a splitter. My SL-30 only has ONE input for NAV and
that does both the VOR and Glide Slope.
See Model 1.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/archer_antennas.php

Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,051 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Chuck Weyant" < chuck(at)chuckdirect.com (chuck(at)chuckdirect.com)>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
To: <rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:06:56 -0700

Anyone using the AV-532 VOR ANTENNA sold by Spruce? If so, does it work
well? Will it also work as a VOR/GS antenna? Spruce is telling me it will.

I'm building a 'ten' and having a problem with the "V" shaped Glide
Slope/VOR antenna Spruce is selling, 11-17923 CI-158C "V" DIPOLE VOR/GS,
fitting in the top of my vertical stab and clearing the rudder counter
balance when it swings. The VOR AV-532 sold by Spruce,(which comes straight
out for an inch or two then 45's back and clears the rudder counter balance
nicely) will work and Spruce says it will also work as a Glide Slope antenna
as well. The catalogue says nothing about GS capability though. Is anyone
using the AV-532 VOR ANTENNA sold by Spruce as a VOR/GS antenna? If so,
does it receive the GS well?

How about the COMANT CI-193 GLIDESCOPE ANTENNA
half wave dipole as an alternative? Will it work well in my wingtip? Could
it double as a VOR antenna too or do I have to purchase a seperate VOR
antenna?

What do you think? Any recommendations? Any alternatives?

Chuck Weyant

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas Reply with quote

Chuck Weyant wrote:
Quote:
Hey thanks guys. I've got a Garmin 430...going to the manual for
further info (duhh)!

By the way, how is the Archer Antenna for ease of installation? Chuck


"Ease of installation" is difficult to define but here is the
installation in my RV-6:

http://thervjournal.com/sportcraft.htm

Sam Buchanan


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:07 pm    Post subject: VOR/GLIDE SLOPE Antennas Reply with quote

This is a timely discussion. I just finished installing a Bob Archer antenna, and using a Comant diplexer (special expen$ive "splitter") I'm feeding the VOR and GS signal to a VAL INS 422.

The VOR and LOC signals get incredible reception, but the glideslope is very weak. It usually only picks up around 5miles (basically right at the outer marker).

Bob says he's never heard of this problem and given me some things to check, but I wonder if anyone else has any ideas.

I can pick up the LOC at over 20 miles and 1000' agl, it seems like I should be getting much better GS coverage than 5 miles at 1800'.

Ed Bundy
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