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 Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: 701 and E-LSA and S-LSA and maintenance |
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After Jan 2008 you can't registeryour CH701 as an E-LSA or an S-LSA, youwill have to register as an Experimental-Amateur built. However, it will still meet the limitations of the LSA rule and a sport pilot can fly it. Any airplane, nomatter what type of airworthiness certificate it has, Standard, Primary, E-LSA, S-LSA or E-AB,can be flown under the sport pilot ruleas long as it meets the limitations of the LSA rules and has continued to do so since its initial registration.
If you register it as an E-AB you can do any and all maintenance on the plane. If you sell the airplane, the new owner will also be able to do his own maintenance. Anyone can domaintenance on an E-AB.
If you are the primary builder and apply for andreceive the repairman certificate for that airplane, you can sign off the annual condition inspection. If you sell it, the new owner will not be able to sign off the annual unless he is an A&P, only the original builder can get the repairman certificate for an E-AB and it can't be transferred.
You will not be able to rent out an E-AB to give flight instruction but you, the owner, canreceive flight instruction in it after the phase I testing is complete.
If you register it as an E-LSA before the Jan 31, 2008 deadline, you will be able to do all of your maintenance but you will have to take a 16 hour maintenance course to qualify to sign off the annual inspection on that plane. The 16 hour course also qualifies you to sign off the annual on any other S-LSA or E-LSA aircraft that you own. The 16 hour course does not qualify you to sign off the annual on any aircraft with a Standard, Primary or E-AB airworthiness certificate even if the plane can be flown under the Sport Pilot rules.
On Sep 22, 2007, at 2:05 PM, kmccune wrote:
| Quote: | --> Zenith-List message posted by: "kmccune" <kmccune(at)somtel.net (kmccune(at)somtel.net)>
So after Jan 2008 I can no longer register a 701 as an E-LSA?
But I can convert it?
Additionally do I then have to take additional instruction to do the anual inspection and annual maintenance even if its an E-LSA?
Its all so confusing 
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kmccune
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: 701 and E-LSA and S-LSA and maintenance |
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Thanks, I was HOPING for an answer like this! The sport pilot part was never a question, but the experimental part along with the who can do what part to the airplane, was a little, OK way foggy!
Thanks
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: 701 and E-LSA and S-LSA and maintenance |
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| Quote: | You will not be able to rent out an E-AB to give flight instruction but you, the owner, can receive flight instruction in it after the phase I testing is complete.
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Actually if it is registered as EAB the plane can be rented for the purpose of transition training. To do this you must register for the exemption with the EAA.
The exemption can not be used for primary training.
Lots of info on the EAA's website ( you must be a member to access ) : http://members.eaa.org/home/govt/exemptions/training_faq.asp
Good luck!
-John
On 9/22/07, Bryan Martin < bryanmmartin(at)comcast.net (bryanmmartin(at)comcast.net)> wrote:[quote]After Jan 2008 you can't register your CH701 as an E-LSA or an S-LSA, you will have to register as an Experimental-Amateur built. However, it will still meet the limitations of the LSA rule and a sport pilot can fly it. Any airplane, no matter what type of airworthiness certificate it has, Standard, Primary, E-LSA, S-LSA or E-AB, can be flown under the sport pilot rule as long as it meets the limitations of the LSA rules and has continued to do so since its initial registration.
If you register it as an E-AB you can do any and all maintenance on the plane. If you sell the airplane, the new owner will also be able to do his own maintenance. Anyone can do maintenance on an E-AB.
If you are the primary builder and apply for and receive the repairman certificate for that airplane, you can sign off the annual condition inspection. If you sell it, the new owner will not be able to sign off the annual unless he is an A&P, only the original builder can get the repairman certificate for an E-AB and it can't be transferred.
You will not be able to rent out an E-AB to give flight instruction but you, the owner, can receive flight instruction in it after the phase I testing is complete.
If you register it as an E-LSA before the Jan 31, 2008 deadline, you will be able to do all of your maintenance but you will have to take a 16 hour maintenance course to qualify to sign off the annual inspection on that plane. The 16 hour course also qualifies you to sign off the annual on any other S-LSA or E-LSA aircraft that you own. The 16 hour course does not qualify you to sign off the annual on any aircraft with a Standard, Primary or E-AB airworthiness certificate even if the plane can be flown under the Sport Pilot rules.
On Sep 22, 2007, at 2:05 PM, kmccune wrote:
| Quote: | --> Zenith-List message posted by: "kmccune" < kmccune(at)somtel.net (kmccune(at)somtel.net)>
So after Jan 2008 I can no longer register a 701 as an E-LSA?
But I can convert it?
Additionally do I then have to take additional instruction to do the anual inspection and annual maintenance even if its an E-LSA?
Its all so confusing
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Kevin
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N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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