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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: interior sun screens

Have any of you made or found interior sun scrrens  for the 10 for when it's setting out on the ramp? I'm planning on flying over to  LOE and just got to thinking that I don't have any of these yet.

  

 Wayne Edgerton N602Wt

  

 Coming out of paint shop on Manday I've attached a  couple of previw pictures fo the progress thus far.

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planesmith(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: interior sun screens

Wow, the plane looks great!!!

Are you thinking of something that goes inside the windows or a canopy cover? Cleveland Tool does have a light weight cover and Van's also sells one. 

 Kennon makes a product called Super Sun Shields. Its kind of a aluminized cover that sits inside the window to block the sun. Aircraft Spruce carries it. I can't commit on it as I have only used canopy covers.

  

 Vern Smith (#324) 



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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:48:03 -0500



     Have any of you made or found interior sun scrrens for the 10 for when it's setting out on the ramp? I'm planning on flying over to LOE and just got to thinking that I don't have any of these yet.

  

 Wayne Edgerton N602Wt

  

 Coming out of paint shop on Manday I've attached a couple of previw pictures fo the progress thus far.

	
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jump2(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: interior sun screens

Wayne, 

   How has the intake on the vertical working? Tony told me about using two naca intakes  and have not heard anyone speak one way or the other? 

   Great paint job? Been looking at that very same style since OSH.

   LOE not sure yet due to house huntng.

  Pat Thyssen

  



Wayne Edgerton <wayne.e(at)grandecom.net> wrote:

  [quote]        Have any of you made or found interior sun scrrens for the 10 for when it's setting out on the ramp? I'm planning on flying over to LOE and just got to thinking that I don't have any of these yet.

   

  Wayne Edgerton N602Wt

    

  Coming out of paint shop on Manday I've attached a couple of previw pictures fo the progress thus far.

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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: interior sun screens

Hi Vern,

  

 I have an exterior plane cover but I was thinking  of the type of shades that you insert inside to the windows. If the plane is on  display you probably don't want the full cover on it.

  

 Wayne Edgerton N602WT

  

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poneill(at)irealms.com
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: interior sun screens

I was  wondering this too and had asked Wayne about this this morning.   He installed his before the NACA option came up but he is getting good airflow  through the scoop.

  

 Is  anyone here flying with the NACA vents for the Accuracy overhead console instead  of the emp fairing scoop?  

  

 If so,  are you happy with the available airflow both in flight and during  taxi?

  

 Best  Regards,

 Patrick #40715

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: interior sun screens

There is someone flying with the dual NACA vents, he's based out of Watsonville CA and Bill Derouchey know home, he put me incontact with him and he reported plenty of air even diring taxi with the NACA vents, sorry I don't remember his name and I'm away from home for a few days.



Deems

---- Patrick ONeill <poneill(at)irealms.com> wrote: 

[quote] I was wondering this too and had asked Wayne about this this morning.  He

 installed his before the NACA option came up but he is getting good airflow

 through the scoop.

  

 Is anyone here flying with the NACA vents for the Accuracy overhead console

 instead of the emp fairing scoop?  

  

 If so, are you happy with the available airflow both in flight and during

 taxi?

  

 Best Regards,

 Patrick #40715

 

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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: interior sun screens

I also spoke with the Watsonville owner before making my decision to go with the NACA vents. He informed me that there was plenty of air flow thru the overhead even during taxi and that if he had it to do over again he would blank out the rear PAX side vents because the air flow is so good with the NACA vents. I chose to leave them in to provide an assortment of places to ventilate. 

My question to him was; do I need 2 NACA vents? There was no definitive answer to that question and so I took that as a sign to put two in because I know I didn’t want to retrofit the second one in at a later date.

Patrick, the one probably obvious benefit to the NACA vents even if they don’t provide as much airflow to the console (I suspect they provide a lot more) is their simplicity of installation and no need to build in a water drain system as the air flow and tubing all work their way up. The rear scoop will collect water and must be accounted for.



Robin  



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Albert Gardner

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 455
Location: Yuma, AZ

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: interior sun screens

I put in NACA scoops on each side for the overhead console. Works good on

taxi but not flying yet. Plenty air.

Albert Gardner

Yuma, AZ



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orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: Re: interior sun screens

I am seriously considering going this route but before this thread started I had a question that has not been addressed yet and I believe it can only be addressed by someone flying.



My question is: Is there any impact with the static ports?   The location of the NACA scoops appear to be in line with the static ports.  Do the scoops induce any disturbance that could interfere with the static ports?

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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)

effectus(at)rogers.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: interior sun screens

I have been considering putting them lower towards the bottom of the aircraft to avoid the static ports.



Dave Hertner

10164 Finishing Wings



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bcondrey

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: interior sun screens

I have asked that question directly to Tony and got the response that

there was no issue.  I also talked directly to the person that did the

flight testing for the first plane with the dual NACA approach and he

said that there was no noticeable issue.  With that said, I am still

pondering whether to cut the holes or just go with the scoop.  If I do

install NACA vents they will not be in line with the static ports.



Bob #40105



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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: interior sun screens

Has any testing been done as to where the exhaust air goes back in that area?  Putting them too low would make me start worrying about the possibility of getting exhaust air into the cabin.  

   

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Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

        

  

From: effectus(at)rogers.com [mailto:effectus(at)rogers.com] 

 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:25 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Re: interior sun screens  

  

       

I have been considering putting them lower towards the bottom of the aircraft to avoid the static ports.

 

 Dave Hertner

 10164 Finishing Wings    

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: interior sun screens

Jesse, fluid dynamics tends to indicate that the flow rate will go from High pressure  to the Low regions regardless of discharge of the exhaust gases at an arbitrary point on the airframe.  Tufting most often indicates a one and a half to three complete swirls around the fuselage from the propeller thrust before exiting the rudder with electrons and other products.  That is dependent on the number of blades, density of the air, airspeed of the aircraft and other factors.  Ken Krueger should be able to provide excellent input on reasons for static placement and the zones of lower under burned hydro-carbon and other harmful gases slipping past on their way back into the environment.  

   

Your concern was well founded in Lancairs with a P-51 style belly induction for A/C which was directly downstream of the Dolly Pardon bulges and turbo exhaust discharge.  That challenge led to the NACA duct solution that became part of Tony’s product development.  Rain ingestion is another issue which Deem’s must be understanding better after his Transition Training with Mike Seager.  Friday hit an all-time rainfall record for an Ocean state.  

   

It is worth researching and asking Ken on placement.  Sharing with us, the fluid flow dynamics could have a positive impact on lots of decisions.  

   

John Cox  

KUAO  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint

 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:17 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

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Has any testing been done as to where the exhaust air goes back in that area?  Putting them too low would make me start worrying about the possibility of getting exhaust air into the cabin.  

   

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Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

          

  

  

From: effectus(at)rogers.com [mailto:effectus(at)rogers.com] 

 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:25 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Re: interior sun screens  

  

       

I have been considering putting them lower towards the bottom of the aircraft to avoid the static ports.

 

 Dave Hertner

 10164 Finishing Wings    

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 I am seriously considering going this route but before this thread started I had a question that has not been addressed yet and I believe it can only be addressed by someone flying.

 

 My question is: Is there any impact with the static ports?   The location of the NACA scoops appear to be in line with the static ports.  Do the scoops induce any disturbance that could interfere with the static ports?

 

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