Matronics Email Lists :: View topic - Antenna Selection & Location

Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists

Get Email Distribution Too! FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register

Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in

Antenna Selection & Location

Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> RV10-List

View previous topic :: View next topic

Author Message

robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: Antenna Selection & Location

Dear 10-List,

	It's time to select my antennas and place them on the plane. Here is my minimum list of antenna:

 

Recap                   		   	   ~$                             Location

CI-122	Comm                  	$140.00                       Belly

CI-122 	Comm                   	$140.00                       Belly

CI-105        	Transp.	  	$100.00                       Belly

CI-102            Marker	   	$100.00                       Belly

Archer #1      VOR              		$85.00                         Internal Win Tip

Archer #1      VOR              		$85.00                         Internal Win Tip

GPS GA-35   GPS             		$350.00                       Canopy Top

GPS GA-35   GPS            		$350.00                       Canopy Top

XM Antenna                		Included                      Canopy Top



	Geeez, Can you hear me now?

	The XM Antenna is included with the purchase of my Garmin GDL-69a receiver.

	I am thinking of replacing 1 GA-35 GPS antenna and the XM antenna and buying a combo GPS/XM antenna from Comant (CI 401-460 http://www.comant.com/pdfs/CI_401-460.pdf ) They offer a couple of different models so when Tech Support calls me back I can get their best recommendation. This will eliminate one bump/penetration on my canopy. 



	Regarding location I reviewed the archives and Tim's Antenna page including Comant's suggested antenna location:  http://www.myrv10.com/files/antennas/comant/Comant_Suggested_Antenna_Locations.pdf  

	

My current plan is to place the antennas in these locations:



Shark Blade just aft of the exhaust outlet

Marker Beacon basically between the main gear or aft of the rear bulkhead

2 Comm side by side aft of the main gear but forward of the step 

Archer VOR in each wing tip

2 GPS plus 1 XM in tandem on top of canopy around where the rear window ends OR

1 GPS & 1 GPS/XM antenna in tandem on top of canopy around where the rear window ends



I see Tim has one GPS antenna near the rear bulkhead and one just behind the windscreen. Tim also has his marker antenna aft of the bulkhead and the Comm antenna side by side in the location I am proposing. 



Other than seeing if I can get Tim to finish my plane...Can I get any comments on my antenna selection and placement?



Thanks in advance,

Robin

RV-4		Sold

RV-6A	400 hours

RV-10		BPE engine Ships next week

rene(at)felker.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: Antenna Selection & Location

My configuration is similar to yours except I went with the Bob Archer

Marker Antenna.......40" piece of wire out in the wing tip.  I am not flying

yet, so can not tell you how they work.  



Put my 1 GA-35 on the top right behind the baggage bulkhead. When I rolled

my A/C out in front of the hanger, the Garmin came alive within about 30

seconds......



Rene' Felker

N423CF

40322

801-721-6080

--

orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Antenna Selection & Location

 	  robin1(at)mrmoisture.com wrote: 	
		  

Other than seeing if I can get Tim to finish my plane...Can I get any comments on my antenna selection and placement?



Thanks in advance,

Robin

RV-4		Sold

RV-6A	400 hours

RV-10		BPE engine Ships next week 	


Hay Hay Hay,  hold your horses.  Get in line.  I got my request in first.  

His plane is finished so what does he have to do now?



About the antenna placement, I am about 2 months behind you so I am listening also.

_________________
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)

LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: Antenna Selection & Location

I did the two comms on the belly, transponder in the center forward, Archer VOR's in each wing tip, and per Checkoways site used 40" of stripped coax for the marker beacon glassed into a wing tip. I use the GPS antenna that came with the pinpoint mounted just aft of the cabin top and the portable GPS ant is on the glare shield to aid in removal. All works well with testing, and am happy.

Dan

N289DT RV10E Flying



--

RobHickman(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: Antenna Selection & Location

I  just received my Garmin 430W and the GA-35 is included with  it.  

This  is perfect timing, I was just getting ready to install all the antenna's and you  have exactly what I do. 

  

I  attached the latest panel drawing.  It is being laser cut and I  should have it later this week. The only change I am going to make is that I no  longer need the three dimmer knobs.   We are about to release a smart dimmer module that will enable the  AF-3500 EFIS to control external lighting circuits from the EFIS.  

  

  

Rob  Hickman Advanced Flight Systems 

N401RH  RV-4 (500+ hours) 

N402RH  RV-10 Mounting Antenna's and trying to get the  doors to fit.

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: Antenna Selection & Location

Nice panel layout, Rob.  What are those big screens you are using in your panel?  J  

   

Do not archive  

     

Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

        

  

From: RobHickman(at)aol.com [mailto:RobHickman(at)aol.com] 

 Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:15 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Antenna Selection & Location  

  

     

I just received my Garmin 430W and the GA-35 is included with it.   

This is perfect timing, I was just getting ready to install all the antenna's and you have exactly what I do.  

   

I attached the latest panel drawing.  It is being laser cut and I should have it later this week. The only change I am going to make is that I no longer need the three dimmer knobs.  We are about to release a smart dimmer module that will enable the AF-3500 EFIS to control external lighting circuits from the EFIS.   

   

   

Rob Hickman Advanced Flight Systems  

N401RH RV-4 (500+ hours)  

N402RH RV-10 Mounting Antenna's and trying to get the doors to fit.  

  



 

         

  

  

       [quote][b]

MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: Antenna Selection & Location

Thanks for the antenna plan - very useful for this builder.



I'm trying to do with less antenna on my ship but with equivalent 

function.  I'd appreciate thoughts from the list on the following thoughts:

- Most of my flight guidance, including precision approaches, will be 

using GPS.  At least that's what the autopilot will be using.

- So, I'm planning on a single Nav and that Nav antenna is going in a 

wing tip

- Marker beacon use barely fogs a mirror.  Even when flying an ILS in 

the Maule, the GPS info just trumps it.  But I will have the capability 

driven by the cheapest, lowest profile antenna I can fabricate - 

stripped coax I guess

- I want dual comm but my experience is that I'll use only one for all 

flight ops.  Sometimes it's nice to use the other one for Clearance 

Delivery or something but the more function in the primary comm, the 

less the secondary comm is used.  Backup is nice and handhelds have 

limitations as a backup (management of batteries, anttena setup, and it 

has to be on the checklist)



So my minimum has only one assymetrically mounted comm on the belly, 

single Nav, secondary Comm and marker in wingtips.  Whatever the GPS 

units require on the top.  And a transponder poking out of the belly in 

front somewhere.  I haven't gotten much further yet.    I think that 

will work.



Bill "installing empty conduit" Watson

Durham NC #40605



Robin Marks wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Dear 10-List,

 	It's time to select my antennas and place them on the plane. Here is my minimum list of antenna:

  

 Recap                   		   	   ~$                             Location

 CI-122	Comm                  	$140.00                       Belly

 CI-122 	Comm                   	$140.00                       Belly

 CI-105        	Transp.	  	$100.00                       Belly

 CI-102            Marker	   	$100.00                       Belly

 Archer #1      VOR              		$85.00                         Internal Win Tip

 Archer #1      VOR              		$85.00                         Internal Win Tip

 GPS GA-35   GPS             		$350.00                       Canopy Top

 GPS GA-35   GPS            		$350.00                       Canopy Top

 XM Antenna                		Included                      Canopy Top



 	Geeez, Can you hear me now?

 	The XM Antenna is included with the purchase of my Garmin GDL-69a receiver.

 	I am thinking of replacing 1 GA-35 GPS antenna and the XM antenna and buying a combo GPS/XM antenna from Comant (CI 401-460 http://www.comant.com/pdfs/CI_401-460.pdf ) They offer a couple of different models so when Tech Support calls me back I can get their best recommendation. This will eliminate one bump/penetration on my canopy. 



 	Regarding location I reviewed the archives and Tim's Antenna page including Comant's suggested antenna location:  http://www.myrv10.com/files/antennas/comant/Comant_Suggested_Antenna_Locations.pdf  

 	

 My current plan is to place the antennas in these locations:



 Shark Blade just aft of the exhaust outlet

 Marker Beacon basically between the main gear or aft of the rear bulkhead

 2 Comm side by side aft of the main gear but forward of the step 

 Archer VOR in each wing tip

 2 GPS plus 1 XM in tandem on top of canopy around where the rear window ends OR

 1 GPS & 1 GPS/XM antenna in tandem on top of canopy around where the rear window ends



 I see Tim has one GPS antenna near the rear bulkhead and one just behind the windscreen. Tim also has his marker antenna aft of the bulkhead and the Comm antenna side by side in the location I am proposing. 



 Other than seeing if I can get Tim to finish my plane...Can I get any comments on my antenna selection and placement?



 Thanks in advance,

 Robin

 RV-4		Sold

 RV-6A	400 hours

 RV-10		BPE engine Ships next week

RobHickman(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: Antenna Selection & Location

Nice panel layout,  Rob.  What are those big screens you are using in your panel?   J

  



 

  

You should see them  with Terrain and weather       

  

  

Rob  Hickman 

Advanced Flight  Systems



S>  [quote][b]

rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: Antenna Selection & Location

If you want to save a couple bucks on the MB antenna, you can strip a 40" section of RG58 or similar so that the center conductor is exposed.  MB's are so tightly focused lot's of old timers say you can pick it up with a coat hanger sticking out the back of the receiver and in some cases with nothing.  Somewhere in my logs I wrote up some stuff on it but can't remember what section anymore.



Michael

Do not archive



--

robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:01 am Post subject: Antenna Selection & Location

Thanks Michael,

	Yes after I sent the request I decided on a single Archer 1 and

was debating on the RG58 vs. the CI-102 Marker Antenna. I don't mind

removing one more item form the slipstream.

	Michael are you good with my proposed location for the Comm

antenna? My Comms should be plenty powerful with dual 16 Watt

transceivers.

	If I really wanted to save money on antennas I would call Garmin

and complain that their $60,000+ G900X should come with GPS antennas.

Every other GPS they make (as far as I know) come with an antenna, why

not the G900X?



Thanks,

Robin

Do Not Archive

orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Antenna Selection & Location

 	  RobHickman(at)aol.com wrote: 	
		    

I  attached the latest panel drawing.  

Rob  Hickman Advanced Flight Systems 

N401RH  RV-4 (500+ hours) 

N402RH  RV-10 Mounting Antenna's and trying to get the  doors to fit. 	


Rob,

Did the drawing get deleted?  I am not seeing it or any link.  Very interested in seeing it as we talked a couple days ago about all of this.

_________________
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)

rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
Guest

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:35 am Post subject: Antenna Selection & Location

"We are about to release a smart dimmer module that will enable the AF-3500  EFIS to control external lighting circuits from the EFIS"

  

 being I am one of those getting the dual 3500 please keep us informed on  any updates you make.

 Thanks!

  

 Pascal

 [quote]   ---

Display posts from previous:

	Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> RV10-List	All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

Jump to:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum