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		river1
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				Are the 2stroke sea doo engines same as ski doo and the aircraft version ? .
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				yes just like a goat and a horse are alike they both have the same number  of legs  a head and a tail.
 
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		Float Flyr
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				The ones I've seen certainly don't look the same.
 
 Noel
 
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				They are different engines but some of the parts are the same.  If you find 
 the right model the gaskets interchange as do most of the rotary valve 
 parts.   from there things differ.
 
 dave chesterman.
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				I think the important difference is that the Sea Doo Rotax doesn't have a integral water pump.
 
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		river1
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				Thanks for helping ; the reason I ask is that they are plentyfull around here . You guys think , provided the right model , that a conversion could be made ? .
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				also sea doo crankshafts have threaded ends unlike the sleds and aviation 
 motors. so first thing you would have to do is change the crankshaft.
 
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		river1
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				Dave ; you seem to know , so do you think is worth the effort in terms of money savings ? . The other option that I cosider is buying a runout and rebuild it .
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				I have been trying to use the lowest cost method for awhile.
 The sled motors are the closest but you get single ignition. Some areas just 
 put a gearbox on a sled engine and when they run out they go to the skidoo 
 dealer and buy a new long block.
 I prefer to keep the dual ignition and have stuck with the aviation motors 
 but use rebuilt cranks from a good engine builder. gaskets i get from 
 aftermarket which are the same as some sleds. I use water pump rv shaft 
 stuff from the 580 seadoos from about 1990.
 If you have nothing now I would buy the cheapest complete aviation 582 i 
 could find( holes in the case, broken crank and everything) to get the 
 carbs, igintion ,gearbox, exhaust, etc and then buy a new long block blue 
 head 582. and make one engine. That is the least expensive way to go if you 
 find a low cost doner engine.
 If you find a good runout 582 you can get them rebuilt by one of the 
 national engine rebuilders using aftermarket sled stuff for about 1500 but 
 don't tell them its form a plane or the work stops there.
 using rotax aviation parts to completely rebuild a runout engine will cost 
 about the same as a new short block
 
 dave c
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  Dave ; you seem to know , so do you think is worth the effort in terms of 
  money savings ? . The other option that I cosider is buying a runout and 
  rebuild it .
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				Very good Dave ; Do you mind pointing to the rebuilders , source for short blocks etc. . If you want do it off line , I didn't mention , but the project in question is a 701 . Thx
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				As soon as your local SkiDoo shop sees the dual ignition they will start to
 ask questions and as you say the work stops there.
 
 Noel
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Sea Doo Rotax | 
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				Noel ; There are no local ski- doo shops here only sea-doo , and I think most local techs don't care as long as you pay . Thx .
 
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