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garrys(at)tampabay.rr.com
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 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: Evergreen Fly-in |
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I flew up from Tampa for the Evergreen (Alabama) EAA SERFI fly-in on Saturday. There was a nice turnout of about 30 RV's, and about 200 planes total. Not many drive-ins from the local area however.
The organization of the event left alot to be desired. We arrived at 9:45 AM only to find that the pancake breakfast was over and done with. The only other food vendor was some greasy sausage trailer. Ugh! After a long flight we were also looking forward to a port-a-potty, only to find after much searching around, there were only 3 on the field. Nobody seemed to be in charge nor was there any information booth set up. Those with officials tags around their necks were clueless where things were and knew nothing about the event.
When it came time to leave I went to the FBO to inquire about fuel. It seems they parked all the static display planes around the fuel farm, leaving no access to the pumps. So I was told they had a 250 gallon truck that was fueling planes, but obviously the driver had to go back to the pumps to refill his truck, about every 5 planes. The FBO had no radio to the fuel truck, so the procedure I was told was to chase the driver down. After walking all over the grounds, I couldn't see or find the fuel truck. Apparently the driver was "taking a break". 1 hour later I found him and asked for fuel. He told me he'd put me on the list.........and I was number 25 in line.........about a 2 1/2 hour wait. I told him to forget it.........left Evergreen and fueled up elsewhere.
Needless to say I left with a bad taste in my mouth for the Evergreen Fly-in. I'll never go back. Should have gone to Thomasville instead. You'd think that with one weekend each year to showcase their airport, that they'd do a much better job of organizing things. Not to mention making some money.
Garry Stout
RV-7A, Tampa Fl.
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flyguy
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: Evergreen Fly-in |
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pass this message on to others incl. Doug Reeves site.
too many good places to go to avoid that kind of
crap.
--- Garry <garrys(at)tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
[quote] I flew up from Tampa for the Evergreen (Alabama) EAA
SERFI fly-in on Saturday. There was a nice turnout
of about 30 RV's, and about 200 planes total. Not
many drive-ins from the local area however.
The organization of the event left alot to be
desired. We arrived at 9:45 AM only to find that
the pancake breakfast was over and done with. The
only other food vendor was some greasy sausage
trailer. Ugh! After a long flight we were also
looking forward to a port-a-potty, only to find
after much searching around, there were only 3 on
the field. Nobody seemed to be in charge nor was
there any information booth set up. Those with
officials tags around their necks were clueless
where things were and knew nothing about the event.
When it came time to leave I went to the FBO to
inquire about fuel. It seems they parked all the
static display planes around the fuel farm, leaving
no access to the pumps. So I was told they had a
250 gallon truck that was fueling planes, but
obviously the driver had to go back to the pumps to
refill his truck, about every 5 planes. The FBO had
no radio to the fuel truck, so the procedure I was
told was to chase the driver down. After walking
all over the grounds, I couldn't see or find the
fuel truck. Apparently the driver was "taking a
break". 1 hour later I found him and asked for
fuel. He told me he'd put me on the
list.........and I was number 25 in
line.........about a 2 1/2 hour wait. I told him to
forget it.........left Evergreen and fueled up
elsewhere.
Needless to say I left with a bad taste in my mouth
for the Evergreen Fly-in. I'll never go back.
Should have gone to Thomasville instead. You'd
think that with one weekend each year to showcase
their airport, that they'd do a much better job of
organizing things. Not to mention making some
money.
Garry Stout
RV-7A, Tampa Fl.
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craig_143ch(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: Evergreen Fly-in |
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Trust me when I say these types of issues have been going there for quite some time. Three years ago I spoke to an official about not being able to get fuel, and he said "we are not here to fuel planes, and if you want gas you should go someplace else." Needless to say I could not believe what I was hearing. The real probem was for a few guys who were in planes that were day VFR only and were not going to be able to get gas and get home before dark. Add to all this the fact that this reginal flyin has gone down hill for the past few years. There is one saving grace in all of this, and that would be the Thomasville, GA flyin that occurs the same weekend. The Thomasville flyin has been going on for about 30 years, long before Evergreen. This past weekend Thomasville had about 500 planes, 30 or so RV's, and was well oganized with lots of volunteers. It is not an air show, but a huge meet and greet for like mind people who love aviation. Next year do yourself a favor and come to south Georgia, we would love to see you.
Craig Hiers
Moultrie/Augusta GA
RV-4
[quote]--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers
pass this message on to others incl. Doug Reeves site.
too many good places to go to avoid that kind of
crap.
--- Garry wrote:
[quote] I flew up from Tampa for the Evergreen (Alabama) EAA
SERFI fly-in on Saturday. There was a nice turnout
of about 30 RV's, and about 200 planes total. Not
many drive-ins from the local area however.
The organization of the event left alot to be
desired. We arrived at 9:45 AM only to find that
the pancake breakfast was over and done with. The
only other food vendor was some greasy sausage
trailer. Ugh! After a long flight we were also
looking forward to a port-a-potty, only to find
after much searching around, there were only 3 on
the field. Nobody seemed to be in charge nor was
there any information booth set up. Those with
officials tags around their necks were clueless
where things were and knew nothing about the event.
When it came time to leave I went to the FBO to
inquire about fuel. It seems they parked all the
static display planes around the fuel farm, leaving
no access to the pumps. So I was told they had a
250 gallon truck that was fueling planes, but
obviously the driver had to go back to the pumps to
refill his truck, about every 5 planes. The FBO had
no radio to the fuel truck, so the procedure I was
told was to chase the driver down. After walking
all over the grounds, I couldn't see or find the
fuel truck. Apparently the driver was "taking a
break". 1 hour later I found him and asked for
fuel. He told me he'd put me on the
list.........and I was number 25 in
line.........about a 2 1/2 hour wait. I told him to
forget it.........left Evergreen and fueled up
elsewhere.
Needless to say I left with a bad taste in my mouth
for the Evergreen Fly-in. I'll never go back.
Should have gone to Thomasville instead. You'd
think that with one weekend each year to showcase
their airport, that they'd do a much better job of
organizing things. Not to mention making some
money.
Garry Stout
RV-7A, Tampa Fl.
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ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: Evergreen Fly-in |
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My experience at Evergreen (the airport, not just the flyin) is that you
probably should be glad you couldn't get fuel there. They typically
have the most expensive fuel in the area.
I got disillusioned with the flyin about a dozen years ago when they
started trying to charge day-visitors (not campers) who flew in in
homebuilts $10 per person.
Charlie
craig hiers wrote:
[quote] Trust me when I say these types of issues have been going there for
quite some time. Three years ago I spoke to an official about not being
able to get fuel, and he said "we are not here to fuel planes, and if
you want gas you should go someplace else." Needless to say I could not
believe what I was hearing. The real probem was for a few guys who were
in planes that were day VFR only and were not going to be able to get
gas and get home before dark. Add to all this the fact that this reginal
flyin has gone down hill for the past few years. There is one saving
grace in all of this, and that would be the Thomasville, GA flyin that
occurs the same weekend. The Thomasville flyin has been going on for
about 30 years, long before Evergreen. This past weekend Thomasville had
about 500 planes, 30 or so RV's, and was well oganized with lots of
volunteers. It is not an air show, but a huge meet and greet for like
mind people who love aviation. Next year do yourself a favor and come to
south Georgia, we would love to see you.
Craig Hiers
Moultrie/Augusta GA
RV-4
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pass this message on to others incl. Doug Reeves site.
too many good places to go to avoid that kind of
crap.
--- Garry wrote:
> I flew up from Tampa for the Evergreen (Alabama) EAA
> SERFI fly-in on Saturday. There was a nice turnout
> of about 30 RV's, and about 200 planes total. Not
> many drive-ins from the local area however.
>
> The organization of the event left alot to be
> desired. We arrived at 9:45 AM only to find that
> the pancake breakfast was over and done with. The
> only other food vendor was some greasy sausage
> trailer. Ugh! After a long flight we were also
> looking forward to a port-a-potty, only to find
> after much searching around, there were only 3 on
> the field. Nobody seemed to be in charge nor was
> there any information booth set up. Those with
> officials tags around their necks were clueless
> where things were and knew nothing about the event.
>
> When it came time to leave I went to the FBO to
> inquire about fuel. It seems they parked all the
> static display planes around the fuel farm, leaving
> no access to the pumps. So I was told they had a
> 250 gallon truck that was fueling planes, but
> obviously the driver had to go back to the pumps to
> refill his truck, about every 5 planes. The FBO had
> no radio to the fuel truck, so the procedure I was
> told was to chase the driver down. After walking
> all over the grounds, I couldn't see or find the
> fuel truck. Apparently the driver was "taking a
> break". 1 hour later I found him and asked for
> fuel. He told me he'd put me on the
> list.........and I was number 25 in
> line.........about a 2 1/2 hour wait. I told him to
> forget it.........left Evergreen and fueled up
> elsewhere.
>
> Needless to say I left with a bad taste in my mouth
> for the Evergreen Fly-in. I'll never go back.
> Should have gone to Thomasville instead. You'd
> think that with one weekend each year to showcase
> their airport, that they'd do a much better job of
> organizing things. Not to mention making some
> money.
>
> Garry Stout
> RV-7A, Tampa Fl.
>
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ollie6a(at)embarqmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:15 am Post subject: Evergreen Fly-in |
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Garry,
Yes you should have gone to Thomasville for a near perfect fly-in. They had over 300 aircraft register which means they probably had many more that didn't register. There was also a lot of Rvs there as we listed it as the Oct. fly-out for the FL. Wing of VAF.
Ollie RV6A Central FL.
[quote] [quote]> Needless to say I left with a bad taste in my mouth
[quote] for the Evergreen Fly-in. I'll never go back.
Should have gone to Thomasville instead. You'd
think that with one weekend each year to showcase
their airport, that they'd do a much better job of
organizing things. Not to mention making some
money.
Garry Stout
RV-7A, Tampa Fl.
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