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		jonboede(at)hotmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: pneumatic abrasotherapy | 
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				I have some old QSF-2A valves from my gear and flaps and I thought I'd 
 rehabilitate them.
 
 Ha.  Ha ha ha.  hahahahaha
 
 So I sat down with a mirror (for its flatness) and sand and emery paper 
 running from 230 grit all the way up to 1500.
 
 By hand I polished the internal surfaces of both items to an absolutely 
 MIRROR finish.  As a final step I used metal polish on linen paper.
 
 I worked up a little test setup with a scuba bottle and regulator.
 
 Still leaks.  It holds to about 60 or 70 psi and then hisses.  At 200-300 
 psi it hisses like crazy.
 
 I spent HOURS doing this.  It's now a matter of HONOR.   
 
 Any suggestions?  As far as I can tell, the two surfaces are flawlessly flat 
 (well, as far as I can tell) to nearly the microscopic level.    I even put 
 a few drops of mineral oil to see if that helped.   Nope.
 
 I can't let this stoopid (yes, with Two O's) thing beat me... help!   
 
 Jon
 
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		ronwasson
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: pneumatic abrasotherapy | 
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				Get new ones and save your time for parts can't be found. I have been  
 thru this many times with old cars. If a new part is around it is  
 always cheaper in the long run.
 
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		Joe Enzminger
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: pneumatic abrasotherapy | 
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				I'm no expert, Jon, but you [i]might[/i] have too much time on your hands.
 
 Joe
 
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		wlannon(at)persona.ca Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: pneumatic abrasotherapy | 
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				Jon;
 These surfaces must be "flawlessly flat". The only possible way to achieve 
 that by hand is with a precision lapping table, fine lapping compound and an 
 understanding of lapping procedures.
 A mirror, for this purpose, is not flat. Paper backed abrasive sheet, even 
 the best 3M wet-or- dry, is not suitable. Sand and emery paper ( I am sure 
 you meant wet-or dry) is pretty much guaranteed to destroy the surface.
 
 If you have access to a very good machine shop you could have them re-ground 
 and lapped but I expect it would be expensive.
 
 Cheers;
 Walt
 
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		brian-1927(at)lloyd.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:41 pm    Post subject: pneumatic abrasotherapy | 
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				On Oct 22, 2007, at 7:09 PM, Jon Boede wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   I spent HOURS doing this.  It's now a matter of HONOR.   
 
  Any suggestions?  As far as I can tell, the two surfaces are  
  flawlessly flat (well, as far as I can tell) to nearly the  
  microscopic level.    I even put a few drops of mineral oil to see  
  if that helped.   Nope.
 
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 Once there is enough wear the clearances go up so that the o-ring can  
 squirm out of the way rather than stay where it is supposed to. You  
 can win this one unless you weld it up and machine it down again.  
 Yeah, like you are going to do that.
 
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		cpayne(at)joimail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: pneumatic abrasotherapy | 
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				Back in bad old days when such parts were hard to find, we had those surfaces nickel plated locally to build them back up a bit. Helped with corrosion too.
   
   
  Craig Payne
  cpayne(at)joimail.com (cpayne(at)joimail.com)
   
   
  
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