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John Vormbaum
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You would hope it would be, but it's.....not. For some reason they never
really got the engine/prop combo right, and the airplanes just don't
seem to perform like you would expect for the amount of horsepower they
gain. Although I haven't flown one personally; I'm getting this info
secondhand from guys who have owned and/or flown them.
I have however looked in the cowlings, and I will say that when you
stuff an IO-720 in there, it leaves NO room for anything like a wrench
or a screwdriver!
/J
Randy Dettmer, AIA wrote:
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Hi Nico,
No, I didn't. Interesting idea, though. How many hundreds of thousands of
dollars would the Mr. RPM's cost..?? I have heard them mentioned many times
on this list, and assume that the performance upgrade is significant.
RD
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
http://www.dettmerarchitecture.com/
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: Engine Analyzer |
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I have the JPI EDM-760 on my 500, works great. The Fuel Flow is great too. You lean to ROP or LOP, whichever you choose in a flash, no guesing at all. Highly recommended
Victor
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Hi Randy... just as well - apparently I was talking through my hat. My brother tells me that, while the download features are good on the AuRacle, it is only available for a limited number of aircraft.
God bless,
Andrew
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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject: Engine Analyzer |
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Good Afternoon Victor,
I totally agree with the convenience of having good engine instrumentation, but could I offer a new twist?
Rather than use the term LOP (Lean Of Peak) some folks are suggesting we call it Green Of Peak or GOP. When in that admittedly lean mode, we are being much more friendly to the environment by reducing the carbon emissions and we are running the engine cooler which is always good. The idea of being on the "Green" side sounds good to me!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 11/6/2007 2:23:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, vfc(at)fernandezgonzalez.com writes:
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have the JPI EDM-760 on my 500, works great. The Fuel Flow is great too. You lean to ROP or LOP, whichever you choose in a flash, no guessing at all. Highly recommended
Victor
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vfc(at)fernandezgonzalez.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: Engine Analyzer |
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Thanks for the advice Bob. Hadn’t heard it before.
I thought GOP was Grand Ol’ Party, just kidding
From now on I’ll use GOP
Speaking of green, have U seen the article on bio diesel fuels used on a jet engine?
Let me see if I find the article or the link
http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/
http://www.greenflightinternational.com/
this article is from AOPA, enjoy
Victor
Jet flies on fast-food oil
By AOPA ePublishing staff
[img]cid:image001.jpg(at)01C82094.526664F0[/img]The day may come when the private and commercial jets crisscrossing our skies run, at least in part, on plant-based fuels that don’t contribute to global warming or resource depletion.
That’s the goal of pilot and entrepreneur Douglas Rodante who, on Oct. 1, made the first jet flight fueled by 100-percent biodiesel. Rodante and Chief Pilot Carol Sugars first flew a Czechoslovakian-built L-29 aircraft around the pattern before making a 37-minute test-flight at altitudes up to 17,000 feet the following day. The aircraft, which is rated to run on a variety of fuels, including heating oil, required no modifications to run on biodiesel.
“This proves that we can implement bio-fuels into our existing air and ground transportation system,” Rodante said of the first flights.
Rodante plans to make a cross-country flight from Nevada to Florida at the end of November, as soon as he and his team have satisfied several FAA testing and safety requirements. And they hope to modify a Learjet to make a high-altitude round-the-world flight next year. The test program is being conducted by Green Flight International and Biodiesel Solutions.
So just what was in the biodiesel used in the test flights? Recycled vegetable oil from restaurants that has been treated with an additive to remove the carbon chains. For the longer cross-country flight, the team plans to use canola oil that has been similarly treated, but these aren’t the only possible sources of biodiesel.
“It’s important for people to understand that we can use a lot of different crops to make biodiesel, many of which do not compete with our food crops. There are plants you can actually grow in the desert that would work,” Rodante explained.
Even with the promise shown by these initial flights, don’t expect to board a commercial airliner running on biodiesel anytime soon. The fuel does have a tendency to gel at cold temperatures and its solvent properties can cause short-term fuel system clogs in vehicles that have previously been used with traditional fossil fuels. But scientists and amateur enthusiasts alike are working to resolve these problems and expect that some mixture of biodiesel and traditional fuel will make its way into the mainstream in coming years.
“You don’t have to use 100-percent biodiesel,” said Rodante. “We’re doing it to make a point. But if we can implement even a small percentage of bio-fuel into commercial aviation and land transportation, the reduction in carbon emissions would be significant and contribute to alleviating our global warming problems.”
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 4:32 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Engine Analyzer
Good Afternoon Victor,
I totally agree with the convenience of having good engine instrumentation, but could I offer a new twist?
Rather than use the term LOP (Lean Of Peak) some folks are suggesting we call it Green Of Peak or GOP. When in that admittedly lean mode, we are being much more friendly to the environment by reducing the carbon emissions and we are running the engine cooler which is always good. The idea of being on the "Green" side sounds good to me!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 11/6/2007 2:23:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, vfc(at)fernandezgonzalez.com writes:
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have the JPI EDM-760 on my 500, works great. The Fuel Flow is great too. You lean to ROP or LOP, whichever you choose in a flash, no guessing at all. Highly recommended
Victor
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: Engine Analyzer |
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Surely, you don’t buy into the hoax, do you Old Bob?
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:32 PM
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Good Afternoon Victor,
I totally agree with the convenience of having good engine instrumentation, but could I offer a new twist?
Rather than use the term LOP (Lean Of Peak) some folks are suggesting we call it Green Of Peak or GOP. When in that admittedly lean mode, we are being much more friendly to the environment by reducing the carbon emissions and we are running the engine cooler which is always good. The idea of being on the "Green" side sounds good to me!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 11/6/2007 2:23:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, vfc(at)fernandezgonzalez.com writes:
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have the JPI EDM-760 on my 500, works great. The Fuel Flow is great too. You lean to ROP or LOP, whichever you choose in a flash, no guessing at all. Highly recommended
Victor
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In a message dated 11/6/2007 2:53:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, vfc(at)fernandezgonzalez.com writes:
Interesting!
Thanks.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
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Good Evening Nico,
What hoax is involved? I am always willing to learn!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
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John Vormbaum
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: Engine Analyzer |
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LOL no kidding....the worst greenhouse gas isn't carbon dioxide by any
means. It's methane. And methane is totally unregulated and we're
spewing uncountable millions of tons into the atmosphere every
year....but you'll never hear about that, since the whole global warming
thing is a political issue, not a scientific one.
Anyway, burn all the avgas you want, methane isn't a byproduct, and the
carbon dioxide is a low order greenhouse gas....
Regardless, anyone who thinks that we'll stop burning oil before the day
when there's no more of it in the ground is pretty naive in my opinion.
/J
nico css wrote:
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Good Afternoon Victor,
I totally agree with the convenience of having good engine
instrumentation, but could I offer a new twist?
Rather than use the term LOP (Lean Of Peak) some folks are suggesting
we call it Green Of Peak or GOP. When in that admittedly lean mode, we
are being much more friendly to the environment by reducing the carbon
emissions and we are running the engine cooler which is always good.
The idea of being on the "Green" side sounds good to me!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 11/6/2007 2:23:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,
vfc(at)fernandezgonzalez.com writes:
have the JPI EDM-760 on my 500, works great. The Fuel Flow is
great too. You lean to ROP or LOP, whichever you choose in a
flash, no guessing at all. Highly recommended
Victor
HI 560
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:32 am Post subject: Engine Analyzer |
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Bob-
That's certainly putting a new "Spin" on things!
Green in terms of emissions- and green for the wallet too. 
Robert Randazzo
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:32 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Engine Analyzer
Good Afternoon Victor,
I totally agree with the convenience of having good engine instrumentation, but could I offer a new twist?
Rather than use the term LOP (Lean Of Peak) some folks are suggesting we call it Green Of Peak or GOP. When in that admittedly lean mode, we are being much more friendly to the environment by reducing the carbon emissions and we are running the engine cooler which is always good. The idea of being on the "Green" side sounds good to me!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 11/6/2007 2:23:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, vfc(at)fernandezgonzalez.com writes:
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have the JPI EDM-760 on my 500, works great. The Fuel Flow is great too. You lean to ROP or LOP, whichever you choose in a flash, no guessing at all. Highly recommended
Victor
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: Engine Analyzer |
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Guys/Gals-
This stunt was pulled at our local field- and the back side of this story is how much damage was done to the airplane's fuel and ignition systems before the FAA stepped in to put a stop to the foolishness. Word around town is that the "Feds" were REALLY not amused at the risks taken.
We really don't need someone putting an airplane into a nearby neighborhood- relations are tough enough as it is.
of course- that isn' the sort of thing you'd put into a press release- especially when you are hoping for investors....
My opinion, of cousre.
RSR
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Victor Fernandez
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:46 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Engine Analyzer
Thanks for the advice Bob. Hadn’t heard it before.
I thought GOP was Grand Ol’ Party, just kidding
From now on I’ll use GOP
Speaking of green, have U seen the article on bio diesel fuels used on a jet engine?
Let me see if I find the article or the link
http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/
http://www.greenflightinternational.com/
this article is from AOPA, enjoy
Victor
Jet flies on fast-food oil
By AOPA ePublishing staff
[img]cid:343133009(at)07112007-0544[/img]The day may come when the private and commercial jets crisscrossing our skies run, at least in part, on plant-based fuels that don’t contribute to global warming or resource depletion.
That’s the goal of pilot and entrepreneur Douglas Rodante who, on Oct. 1, made the first jet flight fueled by 100-percent biodiesel. Rodante and Chief Pilot Carol Sugars first flew a Czechoslovakian-built L-29 aircraft around the pattern before making a 37-minute test-flight at altitudes up to 17,000 feet the following day. The aircraft, which is rated to run on a variety of fuels, including heating oil, required no modifications to run on biodiesel.
“This proves that we can implement bio-fuels into our existing air and ground transportation system,” Rodante said of the first flights.
Rodante plans to make a cross-country flight from Nevada to Florida at the end of November, as soon as he and his team have satisfied several FAA testing and safety requirements. And they hope to modify a Learjet to make a high-altitude round-the-world flight next year. The test program is being conducted by Green Flight International and Biodiesel Solutions.
So just what was in the biodiesel used in the test flights? Recycled vegetable oil from restaurants that has been treated with an additive to remove the carbon chains. For the longer cross-country flight, the team plans to use canola oil that has been similarly treated, but these aren’t the only possible sources of biodiesel.
“It’s important for people to understand that we can use a lot of different crops to make biodiesel, many of which do not compete with our food crops. There are plants you can actually grow in the desert that would work,” Rodante explained.
Even with the promise shown by these initial flights, don’t expect to board a commercial airliner running on biodiesel anytime soon. The fuel does have a tendency to gel at cold temperatures and its solvent properties can cause short-term fuel system clogs in vehicles that have previously been used with traditional fossil fuels. But scientists and amateur enthusiasts alike are working to resolve these problems and expect that some mixture of biodiesel and traditional fuel will make its way into the mainstream in coming years.
“You don’t have to use 100-percent biodiesel,” said Rodante. “We’re doing it to make a point. But if we can implement even a small percentage of bio-fuel into commercial aviation and land transportation, the reduction in carbon emissions would be significant and contribute to alleviating our global warming problems.”
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 4:32 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Engine Analyzer
Good Afternoon Victor,
I totally agree with the convenience of having good engine instrumentation, but could I offer a new twist?
Rather than use the term LOP (Lean Of Peak) some folks are suggesting we call it Green Of Peak or GOP. When in that admittedly lean mode, we are being much more friendly to the environment by reducing the carbon emissions and we are running the engine cooler which is always good. The idea of being on the "Green" side sounds good to me!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 11/6/2007 2:23:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, vfc(at)fernandezgonzalez.com writes:
| Quote: |
have the JPI EDM-760 on my 500, works great. The Fuel Flow is great too. You lean to ROP or LOP, whichever you choose in a flash, no guessing at all. Highly recommended
Victor
HI 560 |
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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: Engine Analyzer |
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Oh, I was just commenting on the ‘green’ in terms of the environment, Bob. I believe the carbon-footprint concept and the associated credits that one can purchase to offset one’s carbon footprint while doing nothing to reduce carbon emissions, is a huge hoax. I also believe we are not responsible for global warming, if it is indeed heating up, that is to say.
I did not intend to vilify what you said.
Nico
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:22 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Engine Analyzer
In a message dated 11/6/2007 3:07:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, nico(at)cybersuperstore.com writes:
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Surely, you don’t buy into the hoax, do you Old Bob? |
Good Evening Nico,
What hoax is involved? I am always willing to learn!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: Engine Analyzer |
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Good Afternoon Nico,
I tend to agree with your interpretation, but it is rather nice to be able to say that we are attempting to go with the flow as far as doing our part whether it helps any or not. The entire issue of operating on the lean side of Best Power or on the lean side of Peak EGT is so fraught with untruths and old wives tales that it is nice to have something like Green Of Peak that, at least, sounds good! <G>
Happy Skies,
Old (been operating on the Green Side for fifty-five plus years) Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
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Oh, I was just commenting on the ‘green’ in terms of the environment, Bob. I believe the carbon-footprint concept and the associated credits that one can purchase to offset one’s carbon footprint while doing nothing to reduce carbon emissions, is a huge hoax. I also believe we are not responsible for global warming, if it is indeed heating up, that is to say.
I did not intend to vilify what you said.
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Hi Bob,
Yup, I agree. It does sound better. GOP vs LOP. The former even sounds as if it has substance. 
I was always under the belief that running GOP would harm my engines, and it’s anybody’s guess how much fuel I have dumped overboard unnecessarily. Anyway, this site is loaded with experience and talent, which has taught me a couple of things.
Thanks
Nico
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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:26 AM
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Subject: Re: Commander-List: Engine Analyzer
Good Afternoon Nico,
I tend to agree with your interpretation, but it is rather nice to be able to say that we are attempting to go with the flow as far as doing our part whether it helps any or not. The entire issue of operating on the lean side of Best Power or on the lean side of Peak EGT is so fraught with untruths and old wives tales that it is nice to have something like Green Of Peak that, at least, sounds good! <G>
Happy Skies,
Old (been operating on the Green Side for fifty-five plus years) Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 11/7/2007 12:14:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, nico(at)cybersuperstore.com writes:
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Oh, I was just commenting on the ‘green’ in terms of the environment, Bob. I believe the carbon-footprint concept and the associated credits that one can purchase to offset one’s carbon footprint while doing nothing to reduce carbon emissions, is a huge hoax. I also believe we are not responsible for global warming, if it is indeed heating up, that is to say.
I did not intend to vilify what you said.
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steve2(at)sover.net
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I believe in the hoax.
I find the hostility toward the notion that we might be affecting the environment in a dramatic fashion very odd. Agriculture, manufacturing, transportation, heating and cooling, recreation all contribute. 10,000 years of stable CO2 levels, begin a sharp rise at the dawn of the industrial age. The rate of change is increasing dramatically as billions more people adopt our style of living. The fact that the amount of these gases in the atmosphere influence the temperature cannot seriously be in dispute.
Oil production has likely peaked. Consumption continues to rise. I guess I'm naive(I still believe in Santa Claus), but this doesn't seem sustainable.
I love big old radials, belching steam locomotives, and big blocks. But if day to day I can make a little difference, I'll try.
Green of Peak..... I like that.....
Steve
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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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Good Evening Nico,
I feel that I was very fortunate in that in 1954 I was sent by my employer to a school taught by some Curtiss Wright Engineers who did a great job of explaining the combustion process. It piqued my curiosity and I adapted what I had been taught to operating my personal engines.
I keep learning everyday, but what I was taught almost fifty-five years ago is being verified daily.
Good Old GOP!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 11/7/2007 3:35:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, nico(at)cybersuperstore.com writes:
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I was always under the belief that running GOP would harm my engines, and it’s anybody’s guess how much fuel I have dumped overboard unnecessarily. Anyway, this site is loaded with experience and talent, which has taught me a couple of things.
Thanks
Nico
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bowing74(at)earthlink.net
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I’ll never turn down an invitation like that, however I’m sure Milt is much more knowledgeable than I.
I would agree on the asset referred to and would add on that it is almost as valuable as being able to look you straight in the eye while peeing in your front pocket.
bilbo
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