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grantr

Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 217

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

I picked up the Kolb MK III and hauled it in a single axle enclosed trailer 800 miles. The trailer has a catch fro the tail wheel and didn't have a boom stand. 

I just found out that it should not be hauled on the tail wheel.



I guess the guy didn't know it wasn't suppose to be hauled that way



Did I screw up? I cant see any damage. What should I check for?



I did have a strap across the front of the plane going through the doors snug to keep the mains from bouncing out of the wheel chocks.



The plane was in the trailer tail 1st.

The chocks were screwed to the floor and the wheels were strapped in the chocks and the strap I mentioned above was used to keep the plane from bouncing up.



One other question: What is the best way to fix a small hole( the size of my pinkie finger) in the horizontal stab?

Thanks,

Grant

grantr

Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 217

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

Are there any plans for a simple boom stand?

planecrazzzy
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:12 am Post subject: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

Hey Grant,

                 Get a boom support fer yer Tail....

You might have Lucked out because the tail had the least amout of 

bouncing with the tail at the hitch....



 The Hole in the fabric.....Take a picture when you ask about stuff like that

....it could be as simple as tape....a picture might also stir up other questions...



                    Gotta Fly...

                                    Mike & "Jaz" in MN

.

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.



 	  grantr wrote: 	
		  

Did I screw up? I cant see any damage. What should I check for?

The plane was in the trailer tail 1st.

One other question: What is the best way to fix a small hole( the size of my pinkie finger) in the horizontal stab?

Thanks,

Grant

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gaman(at)att.net
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

Grant,

 Did you ever see those little bullet hole decals?



grantr <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> wrote:[quote] --> Kolb-List message posted by: "grantr" 



I picked up the Kolb MK III and hauled it in a single axle enclosed trailer 800 miles. The trailer has a catch fro the tail wheel and didn't have a boom stand. 

I just found out that it should not be hauled on the tail wheel.



I guess the guy didn't know it wasn't suppose to be hauled that way



Did I screw up? I cant see any damage. What should I check for?



I did have a strap across the front of the plane going through the doors snug to keep the mains from bouncing out of the wheel chocks.



The plane was in the trailer tail 1st.

The chocks were screwed to the floor and the wheels were strapped in the chocks [quote][b]

cristalclear13

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 363
Location: Southeast Georgia

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:44 am Post subject: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

 	  grantr wrote: 	
		  Are there any plans for a simple boom stand? 	




I don't know about plans, but I may try to copy this guy's boom stand (picture attached).  But looks like it's just for storing, not traveling.

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

At 11:44 AM 11/28/2007, cristalclear13 wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  grantr wrote:

 > Are there any plans for a simple boom stand?

I don't know about plans, but I may try to copy this guy's boom stand 

(picture attached).  But looks like it's just for storing, not traveling.


	


Here's a picture of the telescoping stand in my trailer:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/flyparafan/Kolb/Trailer_1193.jpg



You can't see too much, but I can take some more pictures if anybody 

wants.  Basically it swings up into position and straps to the boom, then I 

simply lift the boom and it extends and locks into place.



-Dana

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  The man who would be fully employed should procure a ship or a woman, for 

no two things produce more trouble" - Plautus 254-184 B.C.

grantr

Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 217

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: Re: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

Dana,



Please do post more pics of it.



I have an idea in mind.



I am thinking of using a 2X6 and some heavy duty hinges to make a swing up boom stand.



I attached a sketch . the gray is the hinge. yellow is the rope.



front being from of the trailer.



What do you guys think of this?

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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
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Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

I believe that George Alexander (I think) gathered up all the various ideas 

of those on the list for boom tube support and put them on a web site. You 

might go through those to find what you need.

Larry C



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George Alexander

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 245
Location: SW Florida

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

http://gtalexander.home.att.net



Click on "Trailering a Kolb"



Larry's appears to be one of the easiest to operate.



George



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agustafson(at)chartermi.n
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

Jim Swan (on this list) has the Firestar trailer that I built. He may be 

able to post some pictures of the tail support in it. I think it worked very 

well and easy if I might blow my horn.



Aaron G.  do not archive

ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

I personally wouldnt haul a Kolb on that setup because it is not the shape of the Tailboom tube  I saw what the previous owner of my old firestar did  almost something just like that and it made a Nice flat spot on the bottom of the tail boom tube and I ended up buying a NEW Tube Not cheap 

 I made an Aluminum fold down bracket  in the trailer  with a U shaped carpet lined  on the top and straped the tail boom tube down in it  I hauled it all the way from MAINE to Minnesota with no problems  But your welcome to experiment with yours  as you please

  

 My 2 cents worth 

 Ellery Building Mk3Xtra  

  

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d-m-hague(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

At 01:29 PM 11/28/2007, grantr wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  Please do post more pics of it.


	


OK... pix of mine are at:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v486/flyparafan/Kolb/Trailer/



The cradle itself is a piece of PVC pipe, split down the middle, and lined 

with closed cell polyethylene foam, with wood support.  The cradle pivots 

at the end of a 2X4 which telescopes into the main support.  In the "up" 

position, it's supported by a spring loaded latch (made from a plastic 

block and a spring load door hinge).  A ball lock pin backs it up when it's 

on the road.



The main cradle is two sections of plywood sandwiching the inner 2X4's, 

forming a pocket for the moving piece to slide into (the moving piece is 

shaved down slightly so it moves easily).  The whole arrangement is hinged 

to the floor of the trailer, so it can fold down and allow the plane to 

roll out.



The latch makes it easy:  I roll the plane into the trailer and strap down 

the main wheels.  Then I flip up the support, extend the cradle, and strap 

it to the boom tube.  I then simply lift the tail up until the latch clicks 

into place, put the safety pin in, and I'm ready to go.



The pictures show the sequence in reverse.  The safety pin lanyard is 

attached to the latch, so that's what I pull to release the latch, while 

supporting the tail with my other hand, which I then lower gently to the floor.



The only change I intend to make is to add a cable to limit how far back 

the support can pivot, so that if the wheel straps come loose, the plane 

can't roll back against the doors.



-Dana

--

  Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for word 

what you shouldn't have said.

gaman(at)att.net
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

I would like to try to post some picts of my boom support.I hope I do this right.If not,sorry in advance.

   G.Aman



grantr <grant_richardson25(at)yahoo.com> wrote:[quote] --> Kolb-List message posted by: "grantr" 



Dana,



Please do post more pics of it.



I have an idea in mind.



I am thinking of using a 2X6 and some heavy duty hinges to make a swing up boom stand.



I attached a sketch . the gray is the hinge. yellow is the rope.



front being from of the trailer.



What do you guys think of this?





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agustafson(at)chartermi.n
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

I like Gary's even better than mine!!!

  

 Aaron

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:52 am Post subject: HAULING mk III without boom stand?

Kolb-List message posted by: "Aaron Gustafson"  <agustafson(at)chartermi.net>



Jim Swan (on this list) has the Firestar  trailer that I built. He may be 

able to post some pictures of the tail  support in it. I think it worked very 

well and easy if I might blow my  horn.



Aaron G.

  

 Hello  everyone,

    Yes Aaron is correct his design of boom support  work's very well. If anyone would like pictures let me know, I will go out in  take some and post.   

Jim Swan

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