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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: sweat soldering fast-on tabs Reply with quote

Bob
I'm curious how you sweat soldered the fast-on tabs
to the bronze substrate- did you use electrical rosin
core or solid along with some flux?

Thank you,
Sam Ray
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: sweat soldering fast-on tabs Reply with quote

Hi Sam
I tinned the copper substrate that I used then pop rivetted the tabs on
with steel pop rivets. Then heated the substrate with a torch. All with
rosin core solder. Worked well.
Ken

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Bob
I'm curious how you sweat soldered the fast-on tabs
to the bronze substrate- did you use electrical rosin
core or solid along with some flux?

Thank you,
Sam Ray




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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: sweat soldering fast-on tabs Reply with quote

At 05:43 PM 11/25/2007 -0800, you wrote:

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Bob
I'm curious how you sweat soldered the fast-on tabs
to the bronze substrate- did you use electrical rosin
core or solid along with some flux?

Electrical 63/37 with a synthetic rosin flux. Kester
"44" is what I use around here the most. You can use
any 60/40 or 63/37 solder with what ever flux gives
you a good flow. Run the finished part through a cleaning
with lacquer thinner (carburetor cleaner in a spray
can) followed by a run through the dishwasher. This
will remove all remnants of flux after the assembly
is completed.

Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: sweat soldering fast-on tabs Reply with quote

Bob,

Is it feasible to use a custom crimp tool positioner like
(http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/crmptool.pdf) to crimp the
high-density d-sub pins (such as Garmin) using an inexpensive (B&C)
crimp tool?

Jim Dabney


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: sweat soldering fast-on tabs Reply with quote

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Bob
I'm curious how you sweat soldered the fast-on tabs
to the bronze substrate- did you use electrical rosin
core or solid along with some flux?

Thank you,
Sam Ray

I used standard electrical rosin cored solder. Lined the tabs up on the

strip, and heated from the bottom with a pencil torch. Touch the hole
in the center of each tab till it fills with solder. Takes less time to
set up and solder a strip than it does to type this email.

If I had to do it over again, I'd just order from StenAir. At a buck
for a 10-gang unit, it's not worth the hassle of chasing down the
materials and getting set up for the job to do my own.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: sweat soldering fast-on tabs Reply with quote

At 10:51 AM 11/26/2007 -0500, you wrote:

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sam ray wrote:
>
>
>Bob
> I'm curious how you sweat soldered the fast-on tabs
>to the bronze substrate- did you use electrical rosin
>core or solid along with some flux?
>
>Thank you,
>Sam Ray
>
I used standard electrical rosin cored solder. Lined the tabs up on the
strip, and heated from the bottom with a pencil torch. Touch the hole in
the center of each tab till it fills with solder. Takes less time to set
up and solder a strip than it does to type this email.

If I had to do it over again, I'd just order from StenAir. At a buck for
a 10-gang unit, it's not worth the hassle of chasing down the materials
and getting set up for the job to do my own.

Interesting observation sir! I've always encouraged
builders to be aware of the economics of their use
of $time$. If the goal is to minimize the total cost
of $time$ to get an airplane licensed and flying, then
it makes sense to consider the make/buy decision when
it comes to acquiring all the goodies needed to finish
the project.

I think I recall an gentleman at OSH telling me years
ago that he would have been $time$ ahead to get a
second job and pay a "pro" to build his airplane.
Of course, he would would run the risk of
knowing no more about the airplane than if he
were flying a spam-can. Bottom line is that education
is always expensive so the expenditure of
$time$ has to be weighed against the perceived
value of education and the pleasure of doing
it yourself.

Bob . . .
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: sweat soldering fast-on tabs Reply with quote

I'm with you guys on only making what is necessary-
these projects take way too long as it is! I'm
building an RV8, which doesn't have a lot of firewall
space avaialable outside the forward baggage area,
that is also close to the battery, and stays clear of
the rudder pedals. I came up with a clever way to use
Bob's grounding system, but it requires making a
special single row of fast-on tabs. I'll have 6
fast-on tab pairs, which will be plently since I can
rely on Bob's new Instrument Panel Ground using D-subs
to handle the bulk of the wires. One of my design
goals is not to use the baggage compartments for
wiring and electrical systems overflow so I can have
maximum baggage space. Looks like I'll be able to pull
it off and also have a good grounding system. Thank
you for your all your help!

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