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P-51 with Turbine

 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:47 am    Post subject: P-51 with Turbine Reply with quote

Y'all correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the Piper Enforcer was a full sized P-51. In 1985 Piper was campaigning the Enforcer around Latin America, trying to sell it to various countries as a ground interdiction aircraft. I was taxiing out from Eastern's terminal in an L-1011 in Bogota , Columbia while the Enforcer was trying to leave the Columbian Military ramp. It was flown by a Piper employee and I was inadvertently blocking his exit while having to hold til the Columbian National Carrier preceeded us to the runup block.--By Tower arrangement__(Naturaly HE got first priority on the highest altitude enroute to MIA). So I got a chance for a brief conversation with the Piper employee. Although the cockpit of the 1011 was higher than the Enforcer, nevertheless, that airplane appeared significantly smaller than a full sized P-51,. even allowing for the fact that I was looking down at it .For a brief few moments I envied the guy in the peashooter, then I came to my senses when I realized HE doesn't have a sweet young thing to bring him a cup of coffee and rub his back to perk him up at 0400 .Y'all take care heah!!
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A P-51 with a turbine. Interesting thought.

It's already been done.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: P-51 with Turbine Reply with quote

On Nov 27, 2007, at 6:43 PM, netmaster15(at)juno.com wrote:

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that I was looking down at it .For a brief few moments I envied the
guy in the peashooter, then I came to my senses when I realized HE
doesn't have a sweet young thing to bring him a cup of coffee and
rub his back to perk him up at 0400 .Y'all take care heah!!


Cliff, with my stick in my right hand I don't need a sweet young thing.

Oh ... wait ... that came out wrong.

Never mind.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: P-51 with Turbine Reply with quote

I think it is actually bigger. I recently took a friend of mine to the Museum and he took nearly 300 photos of the airplane. He does digital artwork and is working on a book about the P-51 and all its variants.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:49 am    Post subject: P-51 with Turbine Reply with quote

The Enforcer is well documented, ,along with the history of it's
development, in wikipedia . I accessed this thru google.
Terry Lewis

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: P-51 with Turbine Reply with quote

Yes it was a full size Mustang
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: P-51 with Turbine Reply with quote

Brian, Your Freudian slip is on the record ; how many Gs ?does it take to choke a chicken ?
Best Regards,
Cliff

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On Nov 27, 2007, at 6:43 PM, netmaster15(at)juno.com wrote:

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that I was looking down at it .For a brief few moments I envied the
guy in the peashooter, then I came to my senses when I realized HE
doesn't have a sweet young thing to bring him a cup of coffee and
rub his back to perk him up at 0400 .Y'all take care heah!!


Cliff, with my stick in my right hand I don't need a sweet young thing.

Oh ... wait ... that came out wrong.

Never mind.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: P-51 with Turbine Reply with quote

Go to the web page below. Scroll down to the article by Bud Evans.

Not many people know Bud Evans but he was a test pilot for many years. He did some of the test work on the Piper Enforcer. At the web site is a very interesting account of one such flight of the Enforcer.

www.vacwarbirds.org/oldnewsletters/0608unscramble.pdf

Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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Brian, Your Freudian slip is on the record ; how many Gs ?does it take to choke a chicken ?
Best Regards,
Cliff

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On Nov 27, 2007, at 6:43 PM, netmaster15(at)juno.com wrote:

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that I was looking down at it .For a brief few moments I envied the
guy in the peashooter, then I came to my senses when I realized HE
doesn't have a sweet young thing to bring him a cup of coffee and
rub his back to perk him up at 0400 .Y'all take care heah!!


Cliff, with my stick in my right hand I don't need a sweet young thing.

Oh ... wait ... that came out wrong.

Never mind.

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