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saolesen(at)sirentel.net
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 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing |
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What's the best way to turn an "outie" dent to an "innie" that is
easily fillable?
Has anyone tried to do a fairing around the the step as it protrudes
from the fuselage? If so, was it worth the effort?
Sheldon Olesen
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facing sanding and finishing hell
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AirMike
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: Uggg - Baggage door |
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I have yet to see a good one. A few months back someone had a post describing how to get the baggage door right. You might want to do a search. I hate it each time I look at my badly fitting baggage door. I might rebuild it. They described hoe they crimped the frame till it fit correctly
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:55 am Post subject: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing |
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We are in the process of making a wing root fairing (fillet) that will
reach aft beyond the step. We should be doing testing in the next 2
weeks. I will post the results if there is an improvement.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Dec 3, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
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What's the best way to turn an "outie" dent to an "innie" that is
easily fillable?
Has anyone tried to do a fairing around the the step as it protrudes
from the fuselage? If so, was it worth the effort?
Sheldon Olesen
40080
facing sanding and finishing hell
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scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.co
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing |
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That will be interesting. I wish Van would have made the flap 1 foot shorter and then made the wing extend all the way back to the step.
I hate watching people either narrowly missing or just hitting the flap as they typically are getting off the plane. The Cirrus is setup this way.
That sounds interesting.
Do not archive
Scott Schmidt
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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:16 am Post subject: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing |
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This is a preliminary look at them. We have the molds made and will be pulling our first parts off this week, probably. No promises, but we will test carefully and thoroughly for improved performance.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
Cell: 352-427-0285
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On Dec 4, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Scott Schmidt wrote:
[quote]That will be interesting. I wish Van would have made the flap 1 foot shorter and then made the wing extend all the way back to the step.
I hate watching people either narrowly missing or just hitting the flap as they typically are getting off the plane. The Cirrus is setup this way.
That sounds interesting.
Do not archive
Scott Schmidt
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Randy(at)abros.com
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing |
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Scott do you have the flaps all they way down when you are entering and exiting the plane? Randy 40006
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:35 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing
That will be interesting. I wish Van would have made the flap 1 foot shorter and then made the wing extend all the way back to the step.
I hate watching people either narrowly missing or just hitting the flap as they typically are getting off the plane. The Cirrus is setup this way.
That sounds interesting.
Do not archive
Scott Schmidt
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scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.co
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing |
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I do have the flaps all the way down when people get in and out. The problem is some people walk straight off the plane and if they put the front of their foot on the step, then their heals are either close of sometimes catch the flap.
I have tried it with the flaps up and then people catch their foot on the way up and sometimes even getting off. The biggest problem is the average (non-aviation) person thinks that the plane is the same as car. You can slam doors, step anywhere and not be very cautious. I must say that 90% of the people I give rides too are very courteous and over cautious, it is that 10% you have to watch for. You know how it is, sometimes you give them the big speech but they still do it quickly.
I don't worry about it too much but alot of these problems would be taken care of if the wing was solid all the way to the step.
Flap inspection is something I look at extra close. You never know what happens if you have your plane parked at an airport and someone jumps up and steps on the flap.
Scott Schmidt
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Randy(at)abros.com
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing |
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I hear you. Just a reminder to all of those who are not flying yet. There is a preferred way to get on and off of the wing. This was told to me by Bruce at Vans about 1 month before my first flight. Always have the person face forward “towards the prop” both getting on the wing and getting off of the wing. Getting on the wing is a no brainier but getting off is the real dangerous time for the flap. If they are facing aft and have a flat soled shoe and there foot slips off of the step their butt lands on the flap. If the flap is in the down position you might have a chance of it taking a glancing blow. Also the weight transfer is much higher if you face aft. You have a good step down and with their full weight. Randy 40006
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing
I do have the flaps all the way down when people get in and out. The problem is some people walk straight off the plane and if they put the front of their foot on the step, then their heals are either close of sometimes catch the flap.
I have tried it with the flaps up and then people catch their foot on the way up and sometimes even getting off. The biggest problem is the average (non-aviation) person thinks that the plane is the same as car. You can slam doors, step anywhere and not be very cautious. I must say that 90% of the people I give rides too are very courteous and over cautious, it is that 10% you have to watch for. You know how it is, sometimes you give them the big speech but they still do it quickly.
I don't worry about it too much but alot of these problems would be taken care of if the wing was solid all the way to the step.
Flap inspection is something I look at extra close. You never know what happens if you have your plane parked at an airport and someone jumps up and steps on the flap.
Scott Schmidt
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From: Randy DeBauw <Randy(at)abros.com>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2007 12:26:58 PM
Subject: RE: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing
Scott do you have the flaps all they way down when you are entering and exiting the plane? Randy 40006
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:35 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Innies" and "outies", step fairing
That will be interesting. I wish Van would have made the flap 1 foot shorter and then made the wing extend all the way back to the step.
I hate watching people either narrowly missing or just hitting the flap as they typically are getting off the plane. The Cirrus is setup this way.
That sounds interesting.
Do not archive
Scott Schmidt
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