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Required VOR Check. Was: IFR instrument check question

 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Required VOR Check. Was: IFR instrument check question Reply with quote

Good Evening Bret,

I would be happy to take that one to a hearing. There is nothing that says you have to have the VOR check if you are not using it for IFR flight. That is pretty well spelled put in the following:

Sec. 91.171 - VOR equipment check for IFR operations.

(a) No person may operate a civil aircraft under IFR using the VOR system of radio navigation unless the VOR equipment of that aircraft --
(1) Is maintained, checked, and inspected under an approved procedure; or
(2) Has been operationally checked within the preceding 30 days, and was found to be within the limits of the permissible indicated bearing error set forth in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section.
Did the FAA person tell you what regulation required the check he/she wanted to see?
Happy Skies,

Old Bob
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Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 12/7/2007 6:58:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, smithhb(at)tds.net writes:
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I gotta side with Bruce on this one.

Two years ago I was ramp checked after landing at CHA just after dark. I
was in a rented C172 building CC time with an inoperative and placarded NAV
radio. The inspector warned me that even with an INOP NAV I was required to
have the VOR Check Log... He suggested removing the radio to avoid the
violation.

Lesson: If you got it, you gotta log it. 



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Required VOR Check. Was: IFR instrument check question Reply with quote

Old Bob,

To be honest, it was a pretty rattling experience. We were in a rented aircraft 50 miles from home, the FBO we rented the aircraft from was closed and we were hustling to find the POH, W&B, etc. Heck, it took us a while to even find the Registration. The whole experience was really a blur.

The only "violation" he discussed with me was the lack of the VOR Check Log and the missing W&B. I never questioned him on the VOR log but did challenge him that the W&B sheet did not need to be in the plane at all times. He did not cite me for anything but boy, was I glad to leave Chattanooga!



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Subject: Required VOR Check. Was: IFR instrument check question

Good Evening Bret,

I would be happy to take that one to a hearing. There is nothing that says you have to have the VOR check if you are not using it for IFR flight. That is pretty well spelled put in the following:

Sec. 91.171 - VOR equipment check for IFR operations.

(a) No person may operate a civil aircraft under IFR using the VOR system of radio navigation unless the VOR equipment of that aircraft --
(1) Is maintained, checked, and inspected under an approved procedure; or
(2) Has been operationally checked within the preceding 30 days, and was found to be within the limits of the permissible indicated bearing error set forth in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section.
Did the FAA person tell you what regulation required the check he/she wanted to see?
Happy Skies,

Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 12/7/2007 6:58:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, smithhb(at)tds.net writes:
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I gotta side with Bruce on this one.

Two years ago I was ramp checked after landing at CHA just after dark. I
was in a rented C172 building CC time with an inoperative and placarded NAV
radio. The inspector warned me that even with an INOP NAV I was required to
have the VOR Check Log... He suggested removing the radio to avoid the
violation.

Lesson: If you got it, you gotta log it.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Required VOR Check. Was: IFR instrument check question Reply with quote

Good Evening Bret,

Glad it all worked out OK..

The vast majority of the FEDs are real good folks. Once in a while they get a bit mixed up as to what they think should be the norm and what the regulations actually require. I can certainly understand the anxiety felt by young folks during their early contacts with a FED. It can be very unnerving.

Happy Skies,

Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503

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The only "violation" he discussed with me was the lack of the VOR Check Log and the missing W&B. I never questioned him on the VOR log but did challenge him that the W&B sheet did not need to be in the plane at all times. He did not cite me for anything but boy, was I glad to leave Chattanooga!



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