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dwight purdy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Shock cords -- FWIW (triv) Reply with quote

I also have been lurking, with my tongue or keyboard pecking fingers tied .
I bought my replacement bungee cord at the local Ace hardware. Made and installed at least three years ago (500 hours). Yes they are a little weak or soft but smoothes out a rough field. I worry more about chafing than strength. I will admit that the plane is light and I fly solo most of the time.

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At 12:58 PM 1/3/2008 -0800, you wrote:

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Michel,

The original bungees in my plane came with the kit, delivered in 1989. Prior owner had only 4 wraps on them and I eventually squeezed 7 out of that set of rubberbands. But before the airplane ever flew (2005) I noticed slack had developed in the left bungee. Don't know if it was age (certainly wasn't wear) that caused stretching. Anyway I replaced with a set I made. A year later I replaced again tho old ones still looked fine.

Because the job is such a chore (at least for me) I've asked myself the same question, i.e., is replacement every year really necessary? Personally, I think not. So I'm going with every 2 years, tho I do check their condition routinely.

P.S.: Back to old songs . . . Reading your description of North African adventure, I think I heard "Marakesh Express" playing in the background.

Michel Verheughe <michel(at)online.no> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe

On Jan 3, 2008, at 8:01 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
> As for annually replacing the bungies, nothing new there either.
> It's always been that way.

Er ... maybe, Deke. And, BTW, thanks Dave for the link to the service
bulletin that I had never seen before.
I replaced my bungees last year after ... 13 years and about 950
landings. I thought it was time although the one I removed were still
in a splendid condition. Of course, I do inspect about everything on my
plane, as a pre-flight and at any other occasion I am in the hangar and
e.g. lift the cowling or just admire my bird. Inspection is never
overdone but ... do we really have to change the bungees annually?

Cheers,
Michel Menezes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Shock cords -- FWIW (triv) Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Shock cords -- FWIW (triv) Reply with quote

Dee
I wish I had wrote down the length I bought so as to do it again.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Shock cords -- FWIW (triv) Reply with quote

I have an Avid Flyer taildragger with bungee gear and limit cables, a 912
engine, an empty weight of 620 lb and a gross weight of 1150 lb. In 200
hours I have made several landings that I thought were VERY heavy but
luckily no damage and no bending of the cross member. So I am a little
curious of just how hard you have to hit to actually bend it and wondering
if the Kitfox and Avid have similar construction. Obviously the cross
member is in a different place and perhaps subject to different impact
loading depending on whether it is a trike or a taildragger. Could some of
the statistical gurus on the list tell me if Avids and Kitfoxes have similar
cross members and if the guys that have bent them were flying trikes or
taildraggers and what weight did they have on board when it happened. But
perhaps we don't hit so hard down here because we live on the under side of
the earth !!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:00 am    Post subject: Shock cords -- FWIW (triv) Reply with quote

"But perhaps we don't hit so hard down here because we live on the under side of
the earth !!!!"

Interesting concept. Very interesting indeed.

I tend to believe we do not understand the gravity of flaring to high.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Shock cords -- FWIW (triv) Reply with quote

Forget the flair and just fly it down with 0 decent and wheel land it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Shock cords -- FWIW (triv) Reply with quote

Hola Marco,

On Jan 3, 2008, at 9:58 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
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But before the airplane ever flew (2005) I noticed slack had developed
in the left bungee.
I've just received a photo from a Swede who bought a second hand Avid

Flyer and I also noticed that one of the bungee was quite slack. The
photo was taken with the plane on a soft ground with high grass and I
think that's what pulled the bungee. When I am parked, I always lift
one wing to put the gears together, especially if the plane was pulled
backward.
Incidentally, while looking at your YouTube video, I was thinking:
That's something I haven't experienced; to see what I built with my
hands fly in the sky. I bought my Kitfox second-hand.

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P.S.: Back to old songs . . . Reading your description of North
African adventure, I think I heard "Marakesh Express" playing in the
background.

Yep, Marrakech, Ibiza, Amsterdam and London were the drifters'
gathering points in those days.

Un abrazo,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Shock cords -- FWIW (triv) Reply with quote

God ettermiddag, Michel.

That was Pedro's (Puerto Rico) video. Wish I was there. I live in cold, snowy Michigan. Imagine Norway without the mountains. I was PIC for my Model 2's first flight but cannot take credit for building her. The "heavy lifting" was done by George Dendzel formerly of Royal Oak, Michigan who did a magnificent job.

Sees senare! (That about exhausts my Norwegian.)

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Michel Verheughe <michel(at)online.no> wrote:
[quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe

Hola Marco,

On Jan 3, 2008, at 9:58 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
Quote:
But before the airplane ever flew (2005) I noticed slack had developed
in the left bungee.
I've just received a photo from a Swede who bought a second hand Avid

Flyer and I also noticed that one of the bungee was quite slack. The
photo was taken with the plane on a soft ground with high grass and I
think that's what pulled the bungee. When I am parked, I always lift
one wing to put the gears together, especially if the plane was pulled
backward.
Incidentally, while looking at your YouTube video, I was thinking:
That's something I haven't experienced; to see what I built with my
hands fly in the sky. I bought my Kitfox second-hand.

Quote:
P.S.: Back to old songs . . . Reading your description of North
African adventure, I think I heard "Marakesh Express" playing in the
background.

Yep, Marrakech, Ibiza, Amsterdam and London were the drifters'
gathering points in those days.

Un abrazo,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Shock cords -- FWIW (triv) Reply with quote

On Jan 4, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
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That was Pedro's (Puerto Rico) video.

Oops! Sorry Marco! Today, an old friend of mine wrote to me: "You know
that you are over 60 (I'll be 60 in a few weeks) when you can tell a
secret to a friend ... chances are that he won't remember it either!"
Smile

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Wish I was there. I live in cold, snowy Michigan. Imagine Norway
without the mountains.

We call it Sweden! Smile

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Sees  senare! (That about exhausts my Norwegian.)

Excellent Norwegian!

Cheers,
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Norway
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