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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Gear and Nose Leg Fairings TE closure Reply with quote

There was no response to the subject, but I will close out the issue of fiberglass failure of attachment rivets with an alternate product for consideration. The rivets won out – forcing a repair.
The plastic airplane boys have given consideration to John Barrett of Barrett/Garrett Enterprises and their composite hinge attached by Hysol composite adhesive to the composite (fiberglass) fairing. A novel solution to dissimilar products attached by adhesive rather than solely metal rivets. On the RV-10 a few newer design features have been added to reduce the occurrence but the vibration is still working on it.
Here is the website and information. No indication of failure should be visible for several years down the road. We are affecting the repair today on a 1999 RV built aircraft.
John Barrett, CEO
Barrett/Garrett Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 428
Port Hadlock, WA 98339
www.carbinge.com
John Barrett [2thman(at)cablespeed.com]

He is a Doctor of Dentistry just like John Gonzales for a primary occupation but is a wealth of knowledge on plastic aircraft components and use of automotive engines with PSRUs on the front end for safe aircraft operations.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Gear and Nose Leg Fairings TE closure Reply with quote

Been thinking about your first post on the TE closure. What would you think about using soft rivets and an adhesive such as Hysol to close this out?

Vern Smith (#324 cabin doors & top)


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Subject: Gear and Nose Leg Fairings TE closure
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:32:52 -0800
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There was no response to the subject, but I will close out the issue of fiberglass failure of attachment rivets with an alternate product for consideration. The rivets won out – forcing a repair.
The plastic airplane boys have given consideration to John Barrett of Barrett/Garrett Enterprises and their composite hinge attached by Hysol composite adhesive to the composite (fiberglass) fairing. A novel solution to dissimilar products attached by adhesive rather than solely metal rivets. On the RV-10 a few newer design features have been added to reduce the occurrence but the vibration is still working on it.
Here is the website and information.  No indication of failure should be visible for several years down the road. We are affecting the repair today on a 1999 RV built aircraft.
John Barrett, CEO
Barrett/Garrett Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 428
Port Hadlock, WA 98339
www.carbinge.com
John Barrett [2thman(at)cablespeed.com]

He is a Doctor of Dentistry just like John Gonzales for a primary occupation but is a wealth of knowledge on plastic aircraft components and use of automotive engines with PSRUs on the front end for safe aircraft operations.

John Cox (with no business affiliation)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Gear and Nose Leg Fairings TE closure Reply with quote

I will evaluate the change in assemblage between the RV6 and the 10. Then weight mentally the advantage of a dimpled strip of aluminum skin to be placed over the original fairing and then finished with a BID of fiberglass. The vibration down the nose is the culprit and we are looking a building a whole new fairing after 900 hours. Will still use rivets with Hysol and a backup.

John


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Been thinking about your first post on the TE closure. What would you think about using soft rivets and an adhesive such as Hysol to close this out?

Vern Smith (#324 cabin doors & top)





Subject: Gear and Nose Leg Fairings TE closure
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:32:52 -0800
From: johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
There was no response to the subject, but I will close out the issue of fiberglass failure of attachment rivets with an alternate product for consideration. The rivets won out – forcing a repair.
The plastic airplane boys have given consideration to John Barrett of Barrett/Garrett Enterprises and their composite hinge attached by Hysol composite adhesive to the composite (fiberglass) fairing. A novel solution to dissimilar products attached by adhesive rather than solely metal rivets. On the RV-10 a few newer design features have been added to reduce the occurrence but the vibration is still working on it.
Here is the website and information. No indication of failure should be visible for several years down the road. We are affecting the repair today on a 1999 RV built aircraft.
John Barrett, CEO
Barrett/Garrett Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 428
Port Hadlock, WA 98339
www.carbinge.com
John Barrett [2thman(at)cablespeed.com]
He is a Doctor of Dentistry just like John Gonzales for a primary occupation but is a wealth of knowledge on plastic aircraft components and use of automotive engines with PSRUs on the front end for safe aircraft operations.
John Cox (with no business affiliation)
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