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Andy Turner

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 31
Location: Clarion, PA

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: anchoring nutplates

OK, newbie question here. I'm installing my first nutplates, need to recess the rivet in some way, and ran into the issue with the female die interfering with the nutplate, and on the skin with the screw dimple. I read that the NAS1097 rivets are a neat solution, and it sounded very good, just countersink a little bit and you are good to go. But.....Van's no longer stocks the NAS1097 in the AD3 size, just AD4's. Mysteriously, Aircraft Spruce also stocks just AD4's. So, do you all have a secret supplier?   



-Andy

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: anchoring nutplates

You can use normal rivets.  You will need a thin dimple die to dimple the

nutplate for the rivet, then you can dimple the skin normally.  If it is a

thick part, then you can machine countersink the aluminum and don't have

to modify the nutplate.



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

www.saintaviation.com

352-427-0285



Andy Turner wrote:

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 OK, newbie question here. I'm installing my first nutplates, need to

 recess the rivet in some way, and ran into the issue with the female die

 interfering with the nutplate, and on the skin with the screw dimple. I

 read that the NAS1097 rivets are a neat solution, and it sounded very

 good, just countersink a little bit and you are good to go. But.....Van's

 no longer stocks the NAS1097 in the AD3 size, just AD4's. Mysteriously,

 Aircraft Spruce also stocks just AD4's. So, do you all have a secret

 supplier?  



 -Andy



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mike(at)learningplanet.co
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: anchoring nutplates

Order a "small diameter" female dimple die. They work great for close  

quarters dimpling like you mention. You can get them from Avery.



Regards,

Mike Schipper

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On Jan 21, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Andy Turner wrote:



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 OK, newbie question here. I'm installing my first nutplates, need to  

 recess the rivet in some way, and ran into the issue with the female  

 die interfering with the nutplate, and on the skin with the screw  

 dimple. I read that the NAS1097 rivets are a neat solution, and it  

 sounded very good, just countersink a little bit and you are good to  

 go. But.....Van's no longer stocks the NAS1097 in the AD3 size, just  

 AD4's. Mysteriously, Aircraft Spruce also stocks just AD4's. So, do  

 you all have a secret supplier?  



 -Andy



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 Andy Turner





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jeff(at)westcottpress.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject: anchoring nutplates

Grind down the edge of your female die... It's pretty standard  

procedure.



Jeff Carpenter

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On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:40 PM, "Andy Turner" <aturner(at)clarion.edu> wrote:



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 OK, newbie question here. I'm installing my first nutplates, need to  

 recess the rivet in some way, and ran into the issue with the female  

 die interfering with the nutplate, and on the skin with the screw  

 dimple. I read that the NAS1097 rivets are a neat solution, and it  

 sounded very good, just countersink a little bit and you are good to  

 go. But.....Van's no longer stocks the NAS1097 in the AD3 size, just  

 AD4's. Mysteriously, Aircraft Spruce also stocks just AD4's. So, do  

 you all have a secret supplier?  



 -Andy



 --------

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kearney(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: anchoring nutplates

Any



If I understand your problem, you need a small diameter dimple die. Have a

look at these from Avery:



http://www.averytools.com/pc-578-17-small-diameter-dimple-dies.aspx



Cheers



Les Kearney

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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:58 am Post subject: anchoring nutplates

Agreed.  I ground a corner off my 3/32 die.  Works great, standard 

rivets, it's used a lot - the extra clearance from the ground-off corner 

that is.



Hit me up directly for a pic unless someone beats me to it.



Jeff Carpenter wrote:

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 Grind down the edge of your female die... It's pretty standard procedure.



 Jeff Carpenter

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 On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:40 PM, "Andy Turner" <aturner(at)clarion.edu> wrote:



> 

>

> OK, newbie question here. I'm installing my first nutplates, need to 

> recess the rivet in some way, and ran into the issue with the female 

> die interfering with the nutplate, and on the skin with the screw 

> dimple. I read that the NAS1097 rivets are a neat solution, and it 

> sounded very good, just countersink a little bit and you are good to 

> go. But.....Van's no longer stocks the NAS1097 in the AD3 size, just 

> AD4's. Mysteriously, Aircraft Spruce also stocks just AD4's. So, do 

> you all have a secret supplier?  

>

> -Andy

>

> --------

> Andy Turner

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=159688#159688

>

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Andy Turner

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Location: Clarion, PA

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: Re: anchoring nutplates

Thanks, I'll try both ways. If anyone else is looking, turns out that Wicks stocks the NAS1097AD3 rivets. 



-Andy

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