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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:16 am    Post subject: 2 1/4 inch ASI and Alt Reply with quote

Hi folks

What experience does anyone have of 2 1/4 inch ASI and Altimeters
suitable for EFIS backup?

Thanks in advance

Willie Harrison

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:09 am    Post subject: 2 1/4 inch ASI and Alt Reply with quote

Hi Willie,

I have both in my aircraft (G-LINN), in fact I seem to remember you took a photo!

My EFIS has not been the most reliable part of the aeroplane, in fact it's been out of the aeroplane and back to the States 4 times. Both myself and the factory got so fed up that they recently sent me a new upgraded unit.

I am so glad that I had a full set of 2 1/4 flying instruments and these have enabled me to carry on flying whilst the EFIS has been away. All of my instruments are Winter, bought from RD Aviation and I have never had a problem with them.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: 2 1/4 inch ASI and Alt Reply with quote

Hi Willie,

When i built the panel, i was looking around, and they were far more expensive. But that's old knowledge. Managed to squeeze normal size a ASI and ALT together with 2 two and a quarter inch fuel level and diff pressure and the Dynon D180 into the mono panel. So it IS possible Smile
http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=Instument-panel&id=IMG_0078&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
is a picture of the panel.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: 2 1/4 inch ASI and Alt Reply with quote

Just saw it was Winter, not Witter - sorry for misunderstanding...
On 1 Feb 2008, at 12:05, trevpond(at)aol.com (trevpond(at)aol.com) wrote:
[quote]Hi Willie,
 
I have both in my aircraft (G-LINN), in fact I seem to remember you took a photo!
 
My EFIS has not been the most reliable part of the aeroplane, in fact it's been out of the aeroplane and back to the States 4 times.  Both myself and the factory got so fed up that they recently sent me a new upgraded unit.

I am so glad that I had a full set of 2 1/4 flying instruments and these have enabled me to carry on flying whilst the EFIS has been away.  All of my instruments are Winter, bought from RD Aviation and I have never had a problem with them.

regards



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: 2 1/4 inch ASI and Alt Reply with quote

Willie-

I used 2 1/4 UMA directly from Aircraft Spruce. I have tach, ASI, and fuel gauges. The Garmin 396 is backup for altitude and ASI. If you have a GPS, it may back up several of your EFIS functions, obviating the need for steam gauges. The 396 has battery backup so is an excellent backup. Can't say how it will all work yet because it is still under construction.

Jim Puglise A-296.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: 2 1/4 inch ASI and Alt Reply with quote

Hi Willie

Long time no see!!

I put 2 1/4 into my RV7A at Cambridge and don't ever remember looking at
them. The twin GRT EFIS are just the bees knees.

Regards

Rick

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: 2 1/4 inch ASI and Alt Reply with quote

Willie,

Still building, but this is my panel so far. But use the Dynon EFIS D-100, with it's internal battery back-up, as the main instrument, with the four 2 1/4" back-ups below. AOA to the right of the Dynon. The two quad gauges to the left now have a three position rotary switch so I can monitor all six cylinder temps. The only change so far is that I have replaced the redundant tachometer with a GT-50 from ACS. Though primarily for a G-meter, it is wired to my Emergency buss so that it's voltage reading will be my "Fuel guage" in the event of a alternator failure.
My right side panel has my circuit breakers, transponder, Nav/Comm, and a Garmin 296 GPS. The GPS also has it's own internal backup battery.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: 2 1/4 inch ASI and Alt Reply with quote

Jim,

Be very careful! Your 396 can give you ground speed, not ASI.
Don't find out the difference hard way if your EFIS fails during a
tailwind!


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: 2 1/4 inch ASI and Alt Reply with quote

Ira-

I may have said it incorrectly. I have a 2 1/4 ASI that is totally independent of the Dynon ASI and fed by the Eurpoa pitot-static, so should not need to depend on the GPS for airspeed. I have both the Eurropa and Dynon ASI/AOA probes on my port wing and they operate totally independently. The only thing in common is a shared static source comming from the Europa ASI. I may have misstated in my earlier e-mail. I am particularly anxious to see how the Dynon AOA indicator works. The theory is very simple and seems like a great solution.

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