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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: Duckworks with tip tanks

Does anybody who is using HID lights in the leading edge have tip tanks?  Is there any concern about a fuel leak causing problems with electricity in that area?  There is power in the wingtip anyway, and at the heated pitot anyway, and the wings are not sealed anyway, but just wanted to see what opinions there were out there on this issue.

Does anybody know what Vic had for landing lights?  I know he had the SafeAir tip tanks.



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 Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



 

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:42 am Post subject: Duckworks with tip tanks

Vic has the duckworks kit...

http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/VicsRV10/plane/IMG_4217.html



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Jesse Saint wrote:

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		   Does anybody who is using HID lights in the leading edge have tip tanks? 

  Is there any concern about a fuel leak causing problems with 

 electricity in that area?  There is power in the wingtip anyway, and at 

 the heated pitot anyway, and the wings are not sealed anyway, but just 

 wanted to see what opinions there were out there on this issue.

 

 Does anybody know what Vic had for landing lights?  I know he had the 

 SafeAir tip tanks.

 

 do not archive

 

 Jesse Saint

 Saint Aviation, Inc.

 jesse(at)saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com>

 Cell: 352-427-0285

 Fax: 815-377-3694

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patrick.pulis(at)seagas.c
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: Duckworks with tip tanks

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ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: Duckworks with tip tanks

Patrick is having problems with his IS mafia - their filtering process

is a little 'aggressive' shall we say.  He asked me to post this:



Hi there Jesse,

 

I'm in the process of installing HID lights into my outboard leading

edges and I'm also plumbing aluminium fuel line through the leading edge

ribs to enable connection of the tip tank in each wing to the outboard

side of the main fuel tank.

 

My wing tips will be converted into fuel proofed integral tip tanks

(giving approximately 28 litres/7.5 USG either side), by Flymore

(http://www.flymore.com.au/), a local RV and experimental aircraft

construction and modification company operated by Jon Johanson

(http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/jj-persn.htm).  They have

significant experience in modifying RV's and extending their range,

which was necessitated when Jon  decided do his record breaking around

the world and Antarctic flights, requiring conversion of his RV-4 into a

wholly 'wet wing'.

 

I will be installing a fuel isolation valve (12V solenoid valve designed

for fuel applications) adjacent to the connection point to the wing tip

tank and have installed an access panel (Vans access panels) on the

under side of the outboard leading edge to enable access to the solenoid

valve and connections and another access panel inboard to enable access

to the connection point to the outboard side of the main tank. 

 

Conversion of the Van's tips into fuel tanks includes a tunnel to enable

the electrics for the lights in the tip to be run separately from any

fuel and away from any HID lights in the leading edge.  To date this

conversion has been highly successful and has been applied to RV's

ranging from the 4 to the 10 with no reported fuel leaks or operational

faults.

 

If anyone would like some photos of a friends RV-7 which features this

modification please drop me a line (patrick.pulis(at)seagas.com.au) and

I'll send them to you separately off-line.  I have discussed the tip

tank modification (inclusive of strengthening the attach points) with

some local aeronautical engineers and they have given it the tick of

approval.  Obviously all up weight must be kept in check and fuel from

the tips should be used first on longer flights.

 

I hope this helps you out.

 

Regards

 

Patrick Pulis

#40299    VH-XPP

Adelaide, South Australia   



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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: Duckworks with tip tanks

Patrick and others,



This is exactly the type of feedback I was hoping for.  Basically, no  

"Oh my goodness I can't believe you would even consider that a viable  

option" comments.  Thanks.



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Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



On Feb 5, 2008, at 7:19 PM, McGANN, Ron wrote:



[quote] 

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 Patrick is having problems with his IS mafia - their filtering process

 is a little 'aggressive' shall we say.  He asked me to post this:



 Hi there Jesse,



 I'm in the process of installing HID lights into my outboard leading

 edges and I'm also plumbing aluminium fuel line through the leading  

 edge

 ribs to enable connection of the tip tank in each wing to the outboard

 side of the main fuel tank.



 My wing tips will be converted into fuel proofed integral tip tanks

 (giving approximately 28 litres/7.5 USG either side), by Flymore

 (http://www.flymore.com.au/), a local RV and experimental aircraft

 construction and modification company operated by Jon Johanson

 (http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/jj-persn.htm).  They have

 significant experience in modifying RV's and extending their range,

 which was necessitated when Jon  decided do his record breaking around

 the world and Antarctic flights, requiring conversion of his RV-4  

 into a

 wholly 'wet wing'.



 I will be installing a fuel isolation valve (12V solenoid valve  

 designed

 for fuel applications) adjacent to the connection point to the wing  

 tip

 tank and have installed an access panel (Vans access panels) on the

 under side of the outboard leading edge to enable access to the  

 solenoid

 valve and connections and another access panel inboard to enable  

 access

 to the connection point to the outboard side of the main tank.



 Conversion of the Van's tips into fuel tanks includes a tunnel to  

 enable

 the electrics for the lights in the tip to be run separately from any

 fuel and away from any HID lights in the leading edge.  To date this

 conversion has been highly successful and has been applied to RV's

 ranging from the 4 to the 10 with no reported fuel leaks or  

 operational

 faults.



 If anyone would like some photos of a friends RV-7 which features this

 modification please drop me a line (patrick.pulis(at)seagas.com.au) and

 I'll send them to you separately off-line.  I have discussed the tip

 tank modification (inclusive of strengthening the attach points) with

 some local aeronautical engineers and they have given it the tick of

 approval.  Obviously all up weight must be kept in check and fuel from

 the tips should be used first on longer flights.



 I hope this helps you out.



 Regards



 Patrick Pulis

 #40299    VH-XPP

 Adelaide, South Australia



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dasduck(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Duckworks with tip tanks

Jesse,

 to increase clearance, you could move the lights one bay  inboard from the tip.

 Don



   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse  Saint

Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:27 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Duckworks with tip  tanks

 

Does anybody who is using HID lights in the leading edge have tip  tanks?  Is there any concern about a fuel leak causing problems with  electricity in that area?  There is power in the wingtip anyway, and at the  heated pitot anyway, and the wings are not sealed anyway, but just wanted to see  what opinions there were out there on this issue. 

 Does anybody know what Vic had for landing lights?  I know he had the  SafeAir tip tanks.

 

 do not archive

 

   Jesse Saint

 Saint Aviation, Inc.

 jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

 Cell: 352-427-0285

 Fax: 815-377-3694





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lbgjb10

Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Posts: 67

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Duckworks with tip tanks

comment about moving the lights one bay in, on the Duckworks web page they suggest not moving it in. am i confused??

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