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n212pj(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: Windshield scratches

Help!  Scratches on windshield.............   

  

 Wanted to clean off the bugs and, using a nylon encased  sponge, just about put as many scratches on the windshield that I could  do.  Any advice appreciated.  I've looked up some products on ACS, but  wondered if anyone had had such a problem and found a solution that they could  recommend....PLEASE!  Ugh.  

  

 John J

   (on the GlaStar, not the unfinished  -10)

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: Windshield scratches

Get a Micro Mesh kit.  Follow the instructions and use copious amounts of water .... adding a little dish soap won't hurt either.   Take your time.  You'll get some sore arm muscles in trade for a clear view.

 Linn

 

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   Wanted to clean off the bugs and, using a nylon encased sponge, just about put as many scratches on the windshield that I could do.  Any advice appreciated.  I've looked up some products on ACS, but wondered if anyone had had such a problem and found a solution that they could recommend....PLEASE!  Ugh.  

    

   John J

     (on the GlaStar, not the unfinished -10)

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eagerlee

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 35

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield scratches

I believe you have two choices. The first one is messy - ruins the paint job: replace the windscreen. The second one isn't as bad but probably takes just as much time: buff out the scratches with progressively finer abrasive material. The stuff you need comes in a kit with instructions.  You start out coarse(400 grit?) and graduate up to 1800 or 2000 (crocus cloth?) with water. I've never done it but I hear it works. Mask off anything you don't want to scratch while you are removing scratches.



Paul Hahn

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kearney(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: Windshield scratches

John  

   

Every year there is a chap at KOSH who flogs a 3M scratch repair kit similar to:  

   

http://www.skygeek.com/window-tools.html  

   

I have watched while a window is scratch and the all the scratches are polished out. I tried this on my PA218 a few years back and ended up just replacing the window. If you try one of these products, get someone who knows what they are doing to do it for you. My impression is that these products can be very effective in the right hands.  

   

Cheers  

   

Les  

   

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen

 Sent: February-24-08 8:47 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Windshield scratches  

  

   

Help!  Scratches on windshield.............    

   

Wanted to clean off the bugs and, using a nylon encased sponge, just about put as many scratches on the windshield that I could do.  Any advice appreciated.  I've looked up some products on ACS, but wondered if anyone had had such a problem and found a solution that they could recommend....PLEASE!  Ugh.    

   

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: Windshield scratches

I've used this kit before, on a couple different planes, and it

worked miracles.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/scratchoff.php



It's called "Scratch Off".



I used it on all of my windows when I got done, to get rid of

any scratches I caused during construction.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying



John Jessen wrote:

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		   Help!  Scratches on windshield............. 

  

 Wanted to clean off the bugs and, using a nylon encased sponge, just 

 about put as many scratches on the windshield that I could do.  Any 

 advice appreciated.  I've looked up some products on ACS, but wondered 

 if anyone had had such a problem and found a solution that they could 

 recommend....PLEASE!  Ugh. 

  

 John J

   (on the GlaStar, not the unfinished -10)

john_rv10(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: Windshield scratches

John,  

   

This happened to an RV6 in our hangar. It was repaired by a chap who does motor cycle plastic repairs and after he finished you could not tell it had been done. The process was complex with many stages and he was clearly masterful at it. Having seen it done, I wouldn’t try it myself.  

   

Good luck,  

John Cleary  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen

 Sent: Monday, 25 February 2008 2:47 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Windshield scratches  

  

   

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: Windshield scratches

After seeing a couple of posts about people saying that

this is a job left for the experts, I'd like to add

a counter opinion.   Using the kit linked below, removing

scratches that are minor shouldn't concern anyone...it's

very simple to do and do right, and the compounds aren't

very aggressive.



I first saw them at OSH, and although was skeptical, I

actually got to watch them do a piece of window. It

amazed me a bit, so I bought a kit to use on my old

plane that had some sort of overspray feeling to the

plexi, and had scratches.  It all polished right out

with no issues.  So I didn't hesitate at all when my

-10 was done to use it on those windows to get rid of

any marks that were left.  You get progressively

finer compounds to use, and on the -10 I only had to

use the 1 or 2 finest ones.  I plan to try it by

hand this summer to get rid of some scratches left

by sun shields at OSH.  And then I plan to be more

careful at OSH when using sunshields.



Using this kit is pretty simple.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

Tim Olson wrote:

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 I've used this kit before, on a couple different planes, and it

 worked miracles.

 http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/scratchoff.php

 

 It's called "Scratch Off".

 

 I used it on all of my windows when I got done, to get rid of

 any scratches I caused during construction.

 

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 

 

 

 John Jessen wrote:

> Help!  Scratches on windshield.............  

> Wanted to clean off the bugs and, using a nylon encased sponge, just 

> about put as many scratches on the windshield that I could do.  Any 

> advice appreciated.  I've looked up some products on ACS, but wondered 

> if anyone had had such a problem and found a solution that they could 

> recommend....PLEASE!  Ugh.  

> John J

>   (on the GlaStar, not the unfinished -10)

>

John Ackerman

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 130
Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: Windshield scratches

Second that, Tim.

We bought a 152 for my daughter's flight school that had a windshield  

that had been mistreated. On our first try with Micromesh it came out  

just fine, even though the whole windshield needed doing.  Since then  

(~1990) we've used it  for smaller jobs a couple times with excellent  

results.

Marlys and John    40458



On Feb 25, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Tim Olson wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 After seeing a couple of posts about people saying that

 this is a job left for the experts, I'd like to add

 a counter opinion.   Using the kit linked below, removing

 scratches that are minor shouldn't concern anyone...it's

 very simple to do and do right, and the compounds aren't

 very aggressive.



 I first saw them at OSH, and although was skeptical, I

 actually got to watch them do a piece of window. It

 amazed me a bit, so I bought a kit to use on my old

 plane that had some sort of overspray feeling to the

 plexi, and had scratches.  It all polished right out

 with no issues.  So I didn't hesitate at all when my

 -10 was done to use it on those windows to get rid of

 any marks that were left.  You get progressively

 finer compounds to use, and on the -10 I only had to

 use the 1 or 2 finest ones.  I plan to try it by

 hand this summer to get rid of some scratches left

 by sun shields at OSH.  And then I plan to be more

 careful at OSH when using sunshields.



 Using this kit is pretty simple.



 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 do not archive

 Tim Olson wrote:

> 

> I've used this kit before, on a couple different planes, and it

> worked miracles.

> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/scratchoff.php

> It's called "Scratch Off".

> I used it on all of my windows when I got done, to get rid of

> any scratches I caused during construction.

> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

> John Jessen wrote:

>> Help!  Scratches on windshield.............  Wanted to clean off  

>> the bugs and, using a nylon encased sponge, just about put as  

>> many scratches on the windshield that I could do.  Any advice  

>> appreciated.  I've looked up some products on ACS, but wondered  

>> if anyone had had such a problem and found a solution that they  

>> could recommend....PLEASE!  Ugh.  John J

>>   (on the GlaStar, not the unfinished -10)

>>

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: Windshield scratches

Yeah, I hate to discourage the do-it-yourself-ers when it's a job

that isn't too hard to do at all.  I mean, to me, it was really

a simple process...and many many things during the build were

far more challenging...this one took almost no thinking.'

I'm just that way about everything though...this weekend I

decided to take Harbor Freight up on their sale prices for carpet

tools and lay carpet as a D-I-Y job.  Last week it was drywall

and texture (which my skills are getting better at, after

painting the plane.  )   There is just so much to be

saved, and tons to be learned by doing some things yourself.



BTW:  For those who like browsing harbor freight, it seems

that air powered body saw has been consistently at $19.99

on sale for a while...perfect for cutting leading edge light

holes and lots of other things.  I keep finding more and more

stuff to buy there as time goes on.  Wish I could still

get their bandsaw...I could really use one at home now

that mine is at the hangar.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

John Ackerman wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Second that, Tim.

 We bought a 152 for my daughter's flight school that had a windshield 

 that had been mistreated. On our first try with Micromesh it came out 

 just fine, even though the whole windshield needed doing.  Since then 

 (~1990) we've used it  for smaller jobs a couple times with excellent 

 results.

 Marlys and John    40458

mritter509(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: Windshield scratches

I had a scratch on my RV-10 windscreen on the inside about 4 inches long in a curved portion of the window (slap anyone who tries to put their headsets on the glareshield) that was really difficult to get to.  Wish I had left it to the experts.  At the end of the day I got rid of the scratch OK but ended up with a distortion I couldn't live with - not one of my better monemts.  Ended up replacing the windscreen - you can imagine how much fun that was.  Had the plane been painted I would have really been up a creek.

Mark

RV-10/N410MR 

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		   Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:24:00 -0600

 From: Tim(at)MyRV10.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Windshield scratches

 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>

 After seeing a couple of posts about people saying that

 this is a job left for the experts, I'd like to add

 a counter opinion. Using the kit linked below, removing

 scratches that are minor shouldn't concern anyone...it's

 very simple to do and do right, and the compounds aren't

 very aggressive.

 I first saw them at OSH, and although was skeptical, I

 actually got to watch them do a piece of window. It

 amazed me a bit, so I bought a kit to use on my old

 plane that had some sort of overspray feeling to the

 plexi, and had scratches. It all polished right out

 with no issues. So I didn't hesitate at all when my

 -10 was done to use it on those windows to get rid of

 any marks that were left. You get progressively

 finer compounds to use, and on the -10 I only had to

 use the 1 or 2 finest ones. I plan to try it by

 hand this summer to get rid of some scratches left

 by sun shields at OSH. And then I plan to be more

 careful at OSH when using sunshields.

 Using this kit is pretty simple.

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 do not archive

 Tim Olson wrote:

 > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>

 > 

 > I've used this kit before, on a couple different planes, and it

 > worked miracles.

 > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/scratchoff.php

 > 

 > It's called "Scratch Off".

 > 

 > I used it on all of my windows when I got done, to get rid of

 > any scratches I caused during construction.

 > 

 > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 > 

 > 

 > 

 > John Jessen wrote:

 >> Help! Scratches on windshield............. 

 >> Wanted to clean off the bugs and, using a nylon encased sponge, just 

 >> about put as many scratches on the windshield that I could do. Any 

 >> advice appreciated. I've looked up some products on ACS, but wondered 

 >> if anyone had had such a problem and found a solution that they could 

 >> recommend....PLEASE! Ugh. 

 >> John J

 >> (on the GlaStar, not the unfinished -10)

 >>

 > 

 > 

 > 

 > 

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n212pj(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: Windshield scratches

Thanks to everyone for your posts on windshield scratches.  I will order the

Micromesh and have at it.  I'll take pictures of the tools that made the

scratches, the actual scratches, the tools assembled to get rid of them, and

document the process.  If I'm successful, I'll post everything on my site

and send it on to Tim so it can be placed in a convenient location for

future reference.  Knowing Tim, there's probably something on the topic on

his site already.  



If I have to replace the windshield, I'll take pictures of Hell's canyon

just before the leap.



You know, I just never thought that the windshield I'm zooming through the

air behind (well, relative zooming) would be this soft.  Another lesson...



John J

  40328

AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: Windshield scratches

Your point is well taken.  Care and protection of the windscreen leads to years of trouble free enjoyment with continued clarity.  

   

Bugs, ballpoint pens, clipboards, headsets and other sundry items leave a lasting and less than enjoyable impression.  There have been a few novel headset hangers in some of the pictures that have drifted from this list over the months.  The Repairman’s cap needs to be on while we are wearing the Builder cap.  It can substantially reduce the post production repairs list.  

   

John  

   

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter

 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:30 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Windshield scratches  

  

   

I had a scratch on my RV-10 windscreen on the inside about 4 inches long in a curved portion of the window (slap anyone who tries to put their headsets on the glareshield) that was really difficult to get to.  Wish I had left it to the experts.  At the end of the day I got rid of the scratch OK but ended up with a distortion I couldn't live with - not one of my better monemts.  Ended up replacing the windscreen - you can imagine how much fun that was.  Had the plane been painted I would have really been up a creek.

  

 Mark

 RV-10/N410MR 

 

 

 

   

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