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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: BA Prop

Dear List,

	I have placed my Vans order for the BA prop and they sent me a

"Please confirm this order" letter to sign & return stating that this is

the prop I am requesting for my IO-540.



C2YR-1BFP/F8068D

C.S Prop I (O) - 540



	That looks like my best BA prop choice correct?



Thanks in advance,

Robin

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bcondrey

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: BA Prop

That's the one I got!



Bob #40105



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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:25 am Post subject: BA Prop

the please confirm is a new thing for Van's in 2008.

If you ask the MT crowd they'll tell you the 3 blade is better, if you ask 

me I'll tell you the three blade looks better, but so does the Aero 

composite at twice the price.. in the end it's all about money, the 2 blade 

may not be the nicest looking prop but it sure works well..

Pascal

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msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: BA Prop

The three blade MT will get you a little better climb in exchange for a couple knots on the top end.  The Aerocomposite supposedly will give you improved climb and top speed.  The three blade will also be a little smoother but a well balanced two blade will be very nice also.  For the money the two blade is hard to beat.  That being said, I'm going with a 3 blade MT because I'll be coming off a grass strip most of the time and any improvement in climb performance is worth the extra expense and effort.



Michael



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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: BA Prop

Okay Mike, do I read this correct, you say a custom painted 3 blade Aero

composite climbs better and will cruise comparably with the 2 blade

blended Hartzell at altitude.  But you are going with the less expensive

MT with great climb performance and slight tradeoff over the 2 blade

Hartzell once at cruise level.



Do tell me which RV-10s with 3 blade AeroComp are cruising with those

prideful 2 blades cause looks alone won't win my wife.  If price was no

object, it would clearly be a 3 blade AeroComp for me.  Just one look at

Mark Ritter's, Wayne Edgerton or Deems become the selling point. Are you

saying an AeroComp out performs Jim Ayer's MT?



These 2 blade Hartzell types are a hard group to sell to.



John - dreams of the 3 blade AeroComp but looking for hard data (which

Jim Ayers found scarce)



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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: BA Prop

Thanks everyone,

I resolved some time ago the two blade / three blade decision for my

build.

I was mostly interested in making sure I was not accidently approving

the BA with the left handed countersunk under-plate with an internal

reverse flange.

I see Tim's prop code was SLIGHTLY different than mine:



Tim (from his site)	C2YR-1BF/F8068D

Mine			C2YR-1BFP/F8068D

Robin

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speckter(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: BA Prop

Don't forget the 2 blade Aerocomposits Prop.  It gives the better climb and

top end speed and weighs less than the Hartzell.  According to them.  I have

yet to start the engine.



Gary

40274



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mritter509(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: BA Prop

My last girl friend was slow but man was she a looker.   I seldom notice or fret about knowing I could be going a couple of knots faster if I had a two blade prop.  Not really convinced either prop (2 blade v. 3 blade) has that much of an advantage over the other so what it boils down to is the extra money worth the perceived (in my mind) sex appeal of a three blade prop.  I've gotten over the inferiority feeling of not having macho retractable gear.

  

 Mark

 RV-10/N410MR 



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 > Subject: RE: BA Prop

[quote] Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:33:26 -0800

 From: johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 

 Okay Mike, do I read this correct, you say a custom painted 3 blade Aero

 composite climbs better and will cruise comparably with the 2 blade

 blended Hartzell at altitude. But you are going with the less expensive

 MT with great climb performance and slight tradeoff over the 2 blade

 Hartzell once at cruise level.

 

 Do tell me which RV-10s with 3 blade AeroComp are cruising with those

 prideful 2 blades cause looks alone won't win my wife. If price was no

 object, it would clearly be a 3 blade AeroComp for me. Just one look at

 Mark Ritter's, Wayne Edgerton or Deems become the selling point. Are you

 saying an AeroComp out performs Jim Ayer's MT?

 

 These 2 blade Hartzell types are a hard group to sell to.

 

 John - dreams of the 3 blade AeroComp but looking for hard data (which

 Jim Ayers found scarce)

 

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speckter(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: BA Prop

Don’t forget the extra hassle of getting the lower cowl off.  

   

Gary  

40274  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter

 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:38 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: BA Prop  

  

   

My last girl friend was slow but man was she a looker.   I seldom notice or fret about knowing I could be going a couple of knots faster if I had a two blade prop.  Not really convinced either prop (2 blade v. 3 blade) has that much of an advantage over the other so what it boils down to is the extra money worth the perceived (in my mind) sex appeal of a three blade prop.  I've gotten over the inferiority feeling of not having macho retractable gear.

  

 Mark

 RV-10/N410MR 

 

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 > Subject: RE: BA Prop

 > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:33:26 -0800

 > From: johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com

 > To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 > 

 > Okay Mike, do I read this correct, you say a custom painted 3 blade Aero

 > composite climbs better and will cruise comparably with the 2 blade

 > blended Hartzell at altitude. But you are going with the less expensive

 > MT with great climb performance and slight tradeoff over the 2 blade

 > Hartzell once at cruise level.

 > 

 > Do tell me which RV-10s with 3 blade AeroComp are cruising with those

 > prideful 2 blades cause looks alone won't win my wife. If price was no

 > object, it would clearly be a 3 blade AeroComp for me. Just one look at

 > Mark Ritter's, Wayne Edgerton or Deems become the selling point. Are you

 > saying an AeroComp out performs Jim Ayer's MT?

 > 

 > These 2 blade Hartzell types are a hard group to sell to.

 > 

 > John - dreams of the 3 blade AeroComp but looking for hard data (which

 > Jim Ayers found scarce)

 > 

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: BA Prop

LOL.  “If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, get a #$%^ women to be your wife”.  In 35 years I have never once hear anyone say 2 blades were sexy and keep a straight face.  There is something magical about a blade for every combustion event rather than a lopey vibration which roles through the airframe.  

   

At work its six blades wins over four blades every day.  Then some two blade driver says “yeh, but when you screw up and the engine stops, boy its more fun going down.”  Like Bob Hoover has always said  - “Fly the aircraft down to the final landing site and walk away”.  

   

I take it Mark your not biting on the 3 blade AeroComp cruise up with the 2 blade metal heads.  Like Jimmy Carter said “ I have lust in my heart for that Looker.”  

   

John  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter

 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:38 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: BA Prop  

  

   

My last girl friend was slow but man was she a looker.   I seldom notice or fret about knowing I could be going a couple of knots faster if I had a two blade prop.  Not really convinced either prop (2 blade v. 3 blade) has that much of an advantage over the other so what it boils down to is the extra money worth the perceived (in my mind) sex appeal of a three blade prop.  I've gotten over the inferiority feeling of not having macho retractable gear.

  

 Mark

 RV-10/N410MR 

 

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 > Subject: RE: BA Prop

 > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:33:26 -0800

 > From: johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com

 > To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 > 

 > Okay Mike, do I read this correct, you say a custom painted 3 blade Aero

 > composite climbs better and will cruise comparably with the 2 blade

 > blended Hartzell at altitude. But you are going with the less expensive

 > MT with great climb performance and slight tradeoff over the 2 blade

 > Hartzell once at cruise level.

 > 

 > Do tell me which RV-10s with 3 blade AeroComp are cruising with those

 > prideful 2 blades cause looks alone won't win my wife. If price was no

 > object, it would clearly be a 3 blade AeroComp for me. Just one look at

 > Mark Ritter's, Wayne Edgerton or Deems become the selling point. Are you

 > saying an AeroComp out performs Jim Ayer's MT?

 > 

 > These 2 blade Hartzell types are a hard group to sell to.

 > 

 > John - dreams of the 3 blade AeroComp but looking for hard data (which

 > Jim Ayers found scarce)

 > 

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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: BA Prop

So in essence, what you are saying is that you were faster than your last girlfriend. You may have gotten over the retractable gear issue, but what about the the real issue? Any inferiority there..

  

 So 2 or 3 blade? Porche or Prius

  

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 [quote]  From: mritter509(at)msn.com

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: RV10-List: BA Prop

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:38:29 -0600



   .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass EC_body.hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}  My last girl friend was slow but man was she a looker.   I seldom notice or fret about knowing I could be going a couple of knots faster if I had a two blade prop.  Not really convinced either prop (2 blade v. 3 blade) has that much of an advantage over the other so what it boils down to is the extra money worth the perceived (in my mind) sex appeal of a three blade prop.  I've gotten over the inferiority feeling of not having macho retractable gear.

 

Mark

RV-10/N410MR 



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[quote] Subject: RE: BA Prop

 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:33:26 -0800

 From: johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 

 Okay Mike, do I read this correct, you say a custom painted 3 blade Aero

 composite climbs better and will cruise comparably with the 2 blade

 blended Hartzell at altitude. But you are going with the less expensive

 MT with great climb performance and slight tradeoff over the 2 blade

 Hartzell once at cruise level.

 

 Do tell me which RV-10s with 3 blade AeroComp are cruising with those

 prideful 2 blades cause looks alone won't win my wife. If price was no

 object, it would clearly be a 3 blade AeroComp for me. Just one look at

 Mark Ritter's, Wayne Edgerton or Deems become the selling point. Are you

 saying an AeroComp out performs Jim Ayer's MT?

 

 These 2 blade Hartzell types are a hard group to sell to.

 

 John - dreams of the 3 blade AeroComp but looking for hard data (which

 Jim Ayers found scarce)

 

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n212pj(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: BA Prop

I once bit on a 4-bladed, scimitar'd Commander.  Had to be  dragged away from it.  New paint and all.  Great looking legs that  retracted....  But slow and could barely lift a full grown man with full  fuel.  But what a looker.  Oh, my.  

  

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   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John  Gonzalez

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:46 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: BA  Prop

 

So in essence, what you are saying is that you were faster than your  last girlfriend. You may have gotten over the retractable gear issue, but what  about the the real issue? Any inferiority there..

 

So 2 or 3 blade?  Porche or Prius

 

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 [quote]      From: mritter509(at)msn.com

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE:    BA Prop

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:38:29 -0600



      .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P { 	PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } .ExternalClass EC_body.hmmessage { 	FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma }    My last girl friend was slow but man was she a looker.   I seldom    notice or fret about knowing I could be going a couple of knots faster if    I had a two blade prop.  Not really convinced either prop (2 blade    v. 3 blade) has that much of an advantage over the other so    what it boils down to is the extra money worth the perceived (in my mind) sex    appeal of a three blade prop.  I've gotten over the inferiority    feeling of not having macho retractable    gear.

 

Mark

RV-10/N410MR 



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[quote] Subject: RE: BA Prop

 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008    12:33:26 -0800

 From: johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com

 To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 

 Okay Mike, do I read this correct,    you say a custom painted 3 blade Aero

 composite climbs better and will    cruise comparably with the 2 blade

 blended Hartzell at altitude. But    you are going with the less expensive

 MT with great climb performance    and slight tradeoff over the 2 blade

 Hartzell once at cruise    level.

 

 Do tell me which RV-10s with 3 blade AeroComp are    cruising with those

 prideful 2 blades cause looks alone won't win my    wife. If price was no

 object, it would clearly be a 3 blade AeroComp    for me. Just one look at

 Mark Ritter's, Wayne Edgerton or Deems become    the selling point. Are you

 saying an AeroComp out performs Jim Ayer's    MT?

 

 These 2 blade Hartzell types are a hard group to sell    to.

 

 John - dreams of the 3 blade AeroComp but looking for    hard data (which

 Jim Ayers found scarce)

 

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: BA Prop

Viagra, for prop envy.  Last longer around sexy aircraft.  I have heard it all.  

   

John C.  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez

 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:46 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: BA Prop  

  

   

So in essence, what you are saying is that you were faster than your last girlfriend. You may have gotten over the retractable gear issue, but what about the the real issue? Any inferiority there..

  

 So 2 or 3 blade? Porche or Prius

  

 Do Not Archive

 

       

  

From:  mritter509(at)msn.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: BA Prop

 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:38:29 -0600

 

 My last girl friend was slow but man was she a looker.   I seldom notice or fret about knowing I could be going a couple of knots faster if I had a two blade prop.  Not really convinced either prop (2 blade v. 3 blade) has that much of an advantage over the other so what it boils down to is the extra money worth the perceived (in my mind) sex appeal of a three blade prop.  I've gotten over the inferiority feeling of not having macho retractable gear.

  

 Mark

 RV-10/N410MR 

 

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 > Subject: RE: BA Prop

 > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:33:26 -0800

 > From: johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com

 > To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 > 

 > Okay Mike, do I read this correct, you say a custom painted 3 blade Aero

 > composite climbs better and will cruise comparably with the 2 blade

 > blended Hartzell at altitude. But you are going with the less expensive

 > MT with great climb performance and slight tradeoff over the 2 blade

 > Hartzell once at cruise level.

 > 

 > Do tell me which RV-10s with 3 blade AeroComp are cruising with those

 > prideful 2 blades cause looks alone won't win my wife. If price was no

 > object, it would clearly be a 3 blade AeroComp for me. Just one look at

 > Mark Ritter's, Wayne Edgerton or Deems become the selling point. Are you

 > saying an AeroComp out performs Jim Ayer's MT?

 > 

 > These 2 blade Hartzell types are a hard group to sell to.

 > 

 > John - dreams of the 3 blade AeroComp but looking for hard data (which

 > Jim Ayers found scarce)

 > 

 > --

apilot2(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: BA Prop

Well you know some guys....two things to hand prop aren't enough. ;-p



On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:19 PM, John W. Cox <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



 Viagra, for prop envy.  Last longer around sexy aircraft.  I have heard it

 all.



 John C.

msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: BA Prop

I did say supposedly.  



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