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maarten versteeg

Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 37
Location: San Antonio

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: Aileron integration

Hello List,



I am nearing completion of my first wing. My question is when

have you integrated the aileron with the wing. I have already

drilled the flap and aileron to the wing but when should

these be riveted in place. The guide describes holding off on

the flaps till mounting the wings to the plane, but for the

aileron it might be easy to get the bell crank setup and the

trim servo wires attached.

Any advise ?



Maarten

601XL plans building wings.

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Gig Giacona

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: Re: Aileron integration

I riveted them when I finished the wing long ago. I also installed and ran the trim before I closed up the wing so they are now tangling at the inboard end of the wing with all the other wires.

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Tim Juhl

Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 488
Location: "Thumb" of Michigan

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron integration

I'm leaving mine off until the wings are installed.  I'm afraid that if I use a sling on the wing with the ailerons in place that I would damage them. Other than that I don't think it matters if you rivet now or later.



Tim



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chris Sinfield

Joined: 28 Nov 2006
Posts: 270
Location: Sydney Australia

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron integration

Thats what Cleco's are for.

Drill and pin the ailerons, put in the cables, belcrank and trim wire, remove and store. 

Chris..

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Ron Lendon

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 685
Location: Clinton Twp., MI

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Aileron integration

Right or wrong my left wing is riveted and hanging from the ceiling with straps. All the plumbing and electrical is in and functioning.

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:57 am Post subject: Aileron integration

Hi Tim,



I went ahead and riveted my ailerons when I built the wings.  For 

storage and moving around, I attached a few sticks across the 

ailerons to the wing skin using duct tape.  Each stick is around 1 

foot long and perhaps 1 inch by 1/4 inch cross section.  Actual size 

of the sticks is random.



I store the wings with the nose ribs facing down.  They are in little 

carts made with harbor freight wheels and plywood from the Zenith 

shipping crates.  This doesn't put any load on the ailerons.

Paul

XL fuselage

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At 04:48 PM 2/28/2008, you wrote:



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		  I'm leaving mine off until the wings are installed.  I'm afraid that 

if I use a sling on the wing with the ailerons in place that I would 

damage them. Other than that I don't think it matters if you rivet 

now or later.



Tim

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:16 am Post subject: Aileron Integration

Tim-

     Since I'm polishing, I left the  ailerons clecoed to the wings so I could polish them before making cuts to  install the aileron trim.

     My storage rack is the same  basic concept as Paul's or Larry Macs- nose down. 

     My wife's aunt said "Anybody  want an old entertainment center?" and it hit me. Take the doors off, put  casters on the back corners, cut cradle openings and line them with water  pipe insulation and you're done- 3 hours build time shown in my log.  Total outlay less than $15 for bed casters and a bag of pipe  insulation.

     This is an old picture- all  assemblies I've brought upstairs over the years have shown no ill effects from  storage in this manner. If you have curious little kids or big dogs you might  want to go with the overhead option.

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Townville, Pa.

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Tim Juhl

Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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Location: "Thumb" of Michigan

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Aileron integration

You guys have all found good solutions to the storage issue.  In my case, I'm hanging them from the rafters in my hangar (at home) using lengths of rejected seatbelt webbing.  I hung them nose up with wood blocks set in the rear spar channel to distribute the forces.



Someone on the group described using a shop crane and sling to support the wing while fitting it to the fuselage.  Knowing my luck I just figured I'd damage something if I left the control surfaces on while trying something like that. If I was sure I'd have enough help on hand I wouldn't worry about it.  I fit the flaps and ailerons beforehand, so all I did was pull the hinge pin on the flaps and de-cleco the ailerons.  All the wiring & etc (less control cables) is in the wings and the aileron pushrods are pretty close to desired length.  Hopefully it won't be a big deal to do the final installation.



Tim



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