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ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Mod to pilot

So, we have to do one of these:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SRG1199.pdf

before we're allowed to make international flights again?



Duncan McF.

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Trevpond(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: Mod to pilot

In a message dated 05/03/2008 21:28:10 GMT Standard Time,  ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk writes:

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		  http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SRG1199.pdf 	


 

 Well, I spose we mite av 2 innit

  

  

  

 Trev Pond

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ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: Mod to pilot

The indigenous population has to bow to beaurocracy out of Europe again!

How do our colonies over the Atlantic see this ?

Bob H G-PTAG

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rob(at)hyperion-ef.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: Mod to pilot

I presume the colonies to which you refer are on the North American mainland

  If so, here's what the AOPA recently included in a newsletter:



CERTAIN U.S. PILOTS NEED NEW 'ENGLISH PROFICIENT' CERTIFICATE

Do you fly internationally? If so, you'll need a new pilot certificate with

the words "English Proficient" on it. The new certificate will be required

for international flights starting March 5, when the International Civil

Aviation Organization's language proficiency standards for operating

internationally go into effect. The requirement applies to airplane and

helicopter private, commercial, and airline transport pilots; flight

engineers; and flight navigators. Pilots with a U.S.-issued certificate will

not need to pass a language test, just request a replacement certificate

from the FAA. The plastic replacement certificate will cost $2 and take

seven to 10 days to be processed. All newly issued pilot certificates will

have the endorsement.

Best regards,



Rob Housman

Irvine, CA 

Europa XS Tri-Gear

A070

Airframe complete



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Gary.Leinberger(at)miller
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: Mod to pilot

How come we aren't equipping our radios with a button - 1 for English, 2

for Spanish, etc? We do it for everything else.



gl



 



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alan(at)kestrel-insurance
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:14 am Post subject: Mod to pilot

Kate and I are still in the USA and thought it was a joke when we were told

by the FAA that we also need to have an "official" document to confirm we

are able to speak English before we can fly internationally ie to the

Bahamas (aprox 60 miles away)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we teach the rest of the world OUR

language. Now we have to prove to their satisfaction that we can speak it ?

Ah well spose I'll ave to start talking proper from now on "n that"



Alan


<ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>



So, we have to do one of these:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SRG1199.pdf

before we're allowed to make international flights again?



Duncan McF.

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Gilles.Thesee(at)ac-greno
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: Mod to pilot

Alan Burrows a écrit :

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		   Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we teach the rest of the world OUR

 language.

   

Hello Alan,
	




Most people in "the rest of the world" have their OWN language.

We're just using yours because your not using ours 



No offence meant, Messieurs les Anglois...



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Gilles

http://contrails.free.fr

alan(at)kestrel-insurance
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: Mod to pilot

Hi Gilles



Point taken. But it still makes me mad that we have to prove our ability to

speak our own language. My apologies to any non English speaking members

(who probably can't read this anyway without the correct paperwork).

I console myself with the fact that we presently have clear blue sky's and

temps in the 80f range here in Florida 

Kind Regards to all.



Alan 



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craigb(at)onthenet.com.au
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: Mod to pilot

I wonder if the ATC operators are required to "upgrade" as well

lets face it some of them have such heavy accents you could hardly

call it english any more.



craig



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Gilles.Thesee(at)ac-greno
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: Mod to pilot

Alan Burrows a écrit :

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 Hi Gilles



 Point taken. But it still makes me mad that we have to prove our ability to

 speak our own language. My apologies to any non English speaking members

 (who probably can't read this anyway without the correct paperwork).



   

Alan,
	




I was just kidding 

In France, due to Civil Aviation Authorities immense generosity, we are 

dispensed with the mandatory 3 year exam in French, and will be granted  

the French language qualification for life.



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Gilles

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TELEDYNMCS(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:24 am Post subject: Mod to Pilot

" But it still makes me mad that we have to prove  our ability to

speak our own language."

  

  

  

 Hello Alan,

  

 I believe it was George Bernard Shaw that said:

  

 "England and America are two countries separated by a common  language"

  

 Perhaps the FAA wants to make sure you know how to speak American? Now, if  they'd extend that rule to the folks streaming across our southern  border things would certainly improve, since our gubmint isn't going to do squat  to stop them from coming here illegally. I do get very tired of having to "Push  1 for English" in a country where English is the primary language......

  

 Regards,

  

 John  Lawton

Whitwell, TN (TN89)

N245E - Flying 

  

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karelvranken(at)hotmail.c
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: Mod to Pilot

Gentlepeople,

 Please be happy that you don't have to learn a foreign language. Even in  your countries you have to learn a bit of radiocommunication uses. The  upset is to limit the vocabulary to 1500 words and standard  phraseology for the exams. Don't be afraid that you have to go to Oxbridge for  the accent and quote Shakespeare. You will be glad to hear your mothertongue as  a standard in airspaces where until now also other languages are  used.

 Best regards,

 Karel Vranken. # 447  F-PKRL 

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davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: Mod to pilot

Bob, You seem to have jumped in with your usual assumption that anything

coming out of Europe must be bad news! Actually on the face of it this has

absolutely nothing to do with Europe , being promulgated by ICAO, but also

seems to be an entirely good thing. Without it and it's precursor documents

we would no doubt be required to be fluent in  at least 6 languages to do

one of our traditional European trips, and I can think of a number who

wouldn't have got too far! (quite apart from having to carry 6 different

currencies)

Warm regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ



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