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kurt(at)scitechsys.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: CJ-6 Night Flying

Do any of you do much night flying in your CJ-6?



Mine has the stock nav/landing lights. I've read the FARs and I'm still

not clear if I'm legal in the stock configuration.

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brian-1927(at)lloyd.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: CJ-6 Night Flying

On Mar 12, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Kurt Howerton wrote:



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 Do any of you do much night flying in your CJ-6?


	


I used to.



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 Mine has the stock nav/landing lights. I've read the FARs and I'm  

 still

 not clear if I'm legal in the stock configuration.


	


The landing light is fine. You need to check the brightness of the  

position lights and you need to add an anti-collision light. Strobes  

are fine for this.



I spent a fair bit of time flying at night. I also spent a fair bit of  

time flying instruments using the Chinese gyros.



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Brian Lloyd                         3191 Western Drive

brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com    Cameron Park, CA 95682

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jblake207(at)COMCAST.NET
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: CJ-6 Night Flying

Here I go sounding like a know-it-all.  I've logged over 2500 hours

night and over 1000 of night vision goggle time (to include time in

Indiancountry) time -read bad-guys-shooting-at-you. (just name the 3rd

world shit hole country)  I've flown my CJ at night, but only as

familiarization or as a night recovery necessity.  Our CJ's are not

equipped for US Standard night or NVG flight.  They are normally

equipped for what I will call, night recovery operations or BASIC night

flight.  I don't believe our airplanes are equipped for everyday night

flying - plus, why would you want to...  I know many will disagree, but

until you've flown off a barge or carrier in the Gulf at night,

multi-ship, at 30 feet (bad weather), please just accept this opinion.

If you want to fly your CJ at night on a regular basis, find someone

(not your basic CFI) who has done it and follow their program of

instruction.  Night flying is different.  READ period.  Hate to sound

like an A$$ hole know-it-all, but your normal private ticket doesn't

qualify us for flying a foreign war bird at, at night.  



In the end, ask your insurance company or AOPA if they disagree.  Why

would you want to fly these beautiful airplanes at night unless you are

a member of the Aerostar demo team with a light lighting your smoke

trail...!



Respectfully,

Jon Blake



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bpx2horn(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: CJ-6 Night Flying

Thanks Jon for the plug. We will be at Sun-n Fun, Oshkosh, and 17 other shows this year including the Dominican Republic. We also prefer not to fly at night if possible x-cross country, but have done it when unforcasted winds or other issues have forced us. We have EFIS and GPS and full legal night certified AC. That being said we still prefer to do all our night single engine flight directly over the airport that we are performing our show at. Since I fly for a major over night delivery company with twin GE CF60-50c2's I feel comfortable doing that but when behind the M14 I just prefer doing it then during daylight hours. This is said after just completing a 1900 nm trip one way with our three planes to the Dom Rep and back for there 60th anniversary Airforce celebration. About 700 nm over water during the day and an unplanned layover in Proventiales because we didn't want to cross the Dominican mountains at night.

 

 Hope to se you guys on the circuit,

 

 Paul Hornick

 

 

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brian-1927(at)lloyd.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: CJ-6 Night Flying

On Mar 12, 2008, at 8:20 PM, bpx2horn(at)aol.com wrote:



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		   This is said after just completing a 1900 nm trip one way with our  

 three planes to the Dom Rep and back for there 60th anniversary  

 Airforce celebration. About 700 nm over water during the day and an  

 unplanned layover in Proventiales because we didn't want to cross  

 the Dominican mountains at night.


	


I have made that trip many times. I can understand your logic  

completely. They get some great thunderbumpers over those at night.  

Much easier to see-and-avoid durning the day when using the mk-I  

eyeball for weather avoidance.



I did catch one of those small Caribbean CBs one night when on my way  

home to St. Thomas. Not fun.



Day/night, IFR/VFR, single-/multi-engine: it is all a matter of risk  

assessment. What are you comfortable with?

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Brian Lloyd                         3191 Western Drive

brian HYPHEN 1927 AT lloyd DOT com    Cameron Park, CA 95682

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ChangDriver

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: CJ-6 Night Flying

Kurt:



Just put the Whelen strobes on the plane with the nav lights built in.  Turn the strobes on both day and night unless you are in formation and briefed otherwise.



Craig

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