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Possums

Joined: 03 Nov 2007
Posts: 247

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: Flying with VGs

Shot some more videos this afternoon.

I'll keep the clips shorter - so as not to bore you all.

I mounted a new Hall ASI close to the camera.

It goes from 0 to 55 mph. They are very accurate in clean air.

It was easy to read in the original clip (32MB), but hard to see

after it was uploaded to Goggle. Guess I need to put it closer to the camera

next time.

Anyway - here is a clip flying at 25 mph at about 4200 RPM.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8643180947591432536&hl=en

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Possums

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: Flying with VGs

Here is a clip flying at about 5800 RPM with the

stick pulled all the way back to the seat.

It is hard to stall with full power unless you pull

the stick back pretty quick and make it.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8361300167482330203&hl=en

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Possums

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: Flying with VGs

Here is our field - it's getting kind of crowded with all the

new houses they've built next to it. But the new neighbors don't

seem to mind - so far. Just gotta watch those antennas.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid 63159682459782825&hl=en

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Possums

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Flying with VGs

Here's some turns at 25 - 30 mph - no stall.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8126295785191222670&hl=en

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Possums

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: Flying with VGs

And the last one - a clean stall break.

But it recovers pretty quick.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1724203084033037294&hl=en

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ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: Flying with VGs

Hey there Possum you say in this pic Video  it  was a clean stall break the Hall indicator is indicating 35  I had a  firestar that weighed in at 338 dry and did not have VG's and it would  stall under 30 indicated good thing I didn't put the VG's on ...chuckle  ...chuckle

  

 Ellery in Maine sick of all this snow and ready for  spring 

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  In a message dated 3/12/2008 10:46:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  possums(at)bellsouth.net writes:

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And    the last one - a clean stall break.

But it recovers pretty    quick.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1724203084033037294&hl=en 	




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Possums

Joined: 03 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: Flying with VGs

At 07:38 AM 3/13/2008, you wrote:

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		  Hey there Possum you say in this pic Video  it was a clean stall break the Hall indicator is indicating 35  I had a firestar that weighed in at 338 dry and did not have VG's and it would stall under 30 indicated good thing I didn't put the VG's on ...chuckle ....chuckle

 	


 You've gotta remember that I'm not dragging the plane thru the

 air with three notches of flaps either. I don't even have flaps or flaperons. 

 I don't even have the old "barn door" style ailerons on this plane. 

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Jim ODay

Joined: 09 Jul 2007
Posts: 61
Location: Fargo North Dakota

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Flying with VGs

Wow Possum!  Great demo video.



The steep turns are very impressive.  Thanks for sharing them.



Fly safe,



Jim



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jb92563

Joined: 23 Mar 2007
Posts: 314
Location: Southern California

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Flying with VGs

Possums,



Love that landing movie.....looks like you are barnstorming the neighborhood and the way the ground is moving by makes it look like you have engaged the Warp engines.....cool  



Could you mount the camera above the wing showing the VG's and then pour some engine oil on your leading edge and take a flight.



I'm curious how the air is moving around the VG's and where the flow separation occurs compared to your VG placement.



The oil trails will show what is happening up there.

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Possums

Joined: 03 Nov 2007
Posts: 247

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Flying with VGs

 	  Jim ODay wrote: 	
		  Wow Possum!  Great demo video.



The steep turns are very impressive.  Thanks for sharing them.



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Can I attach a file to this part of the list without bogging down everyone's computer?

Like this one - I think you would have to open it with "Quicktime"

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Jim ODay

Joined: 09 Jul 2007
Posts: 61
Location: Fargo North Dakota

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Flying with VGs

Love your videos so if you would be kind enough to send me it, I use this service below for large files and it is smooth.  



https://www.sendthisfile.com



I don't know if large files bog down some Kolbers on the list, probably does.    I recall some time ago, some folks had issues with large pics so a video file may be like drinking from a fire hose.



Thanks and fly safe.



Jim

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Possums

Joined: 03 Nov 2007
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: Flying with VGs

At 04:00 PM 3/13/2008, you wrote:

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Possums,

Could you mount the camera above the wing showing the VG's and then 

pour some engine oil on your leading edge and take a flight.

I'm curious how the air is moving around the VG's and where the flow 

separation occurs compared to your VG placement.

The oil trails will show what is happening up there. [Wink]


	




I'd have to wash my plane first - you can see how dusty my wings are.

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ulflyer(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: Flying with VGs

What is the do-dad on you nose cone right in front of you?

Are you using it for slip indicator?  First I thought it was a 

pivoting airspeed probe like they often use on aircraft during 

certification testing.but it looks like it acts more like a ground 

direction indicator?

jerb



At 09:30 PM 3/12/2008, you wrote:



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		  Here is a clip flying at about 5800 RPM with the

stick pulled all the way back to the seat.

It is hard to stall with full power unless you pull

the stick back pretty quick and make it.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8361300167482330203&hl=en

beauford173(at)verizon.ne
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: Flying with VGs

What is the do-dad on you nose cone right in front of you?



 it looks like it acts more like a ground

direction indicator?

jerb

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.actully it sorta is, jerb....   when it points directly back at the 

Possum, then spins ten or

 fifteen times, it means he is firmly emplaced betwen the Posture-Pedic and 

the crapper

in the second story master bedroom of that big 'ol house he passed within 30 

feet of on

very short final into the Possum Patch in the video...  and if he is lucky 

it will then swing

yet again to point toward the stairs so he can beat-feet out of the house 

before the

authorities show up...



helpful beauford

FF-076

Brandon, FL

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Possums

Joined: 03 Nov 2007
Posts: 247

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:32 am Post subject: Flying with VGs

At 08:43 PM 3/15/2008, you wrote:

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What is the do-dad on you nose cone right in front of you?

Are you using it for slip indicator?  First I thought it was a 

pivoting airspeed probe like they often use on aircraft during 

certification testing.but it looks like it acts more like a ground 

direction indicator?

jerb


	


Using it as a slip indicator - it came off a sail boat.

A string works just as well if I have my windshield on, but not so good

when I fly out in the open.

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Possums

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Posts: 247

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Flying with VGs

[quote="jb92563"]Possums,



Love that landing movie....quote]



So .......I'm trying to find out how you can add attachments to this part of the list "Read this topic online here" without affecting the "email" part of the list and forcing people to have to download something they don't choose to?

Got any idea? or "How do you do it"?

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biglar

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 457

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: Flying with VGs

Only way I know of is to publish it, then put the link in the email to 

the List.  A regular attachment will open automatically with the message 

and cause grief to those on dial up.  Not fair to 

'em.                        Lar.                   Do not Archive.



Possums wrote:

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 [quote="jb92563"]Possums,



 Love that landing movie....quote]



 So .......I'm trying to find out how you can add attachments to this part of the list "Read this topic online here" without affecting the "email" part of the list and forcing people to have to download something they don't choose to?

 Got any idea? or "How do you do it"?



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 Possum





 Read this topic online here:



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Larry Bourne

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Palm Springs, CA
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: Flying with VGs

Possum,Just sign up for a free Google Gmail account and you will have all the space you need to up load photos, documents, videos and more. 

Then you can link it to any email you wish.

Here is an example of a document I just did.

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=d3jhg27_0fr7x2tcf



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