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Charles Heathco



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: flying wide open in turb. Reply with quote

I was out yesterday checking on something (6a) and turb mod to above moderate. I took her up to 180smh and she was kicking pretty hard. I slowed her but I think she is built to take it better than I am, In my Cherokee days, we were taught to keep at man spd in bad turb. I was watching my g meter and it wasnt moving nuch. Whaddaya think? Charlie heathco
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: flying wide open in turb. Reply with quote

The definition of maneuvering speed hasn't changed. It applies to RV's just like any other aircraft. It's protection from the extremes so when to apply it is still subjective.

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Greg Young


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I was out yesterday checking on something (6a) and turb mod to above moderate. I took her up to 180smh and she was kicking pretty hard. I slowed her but I think she is built to take it better than I am, In my Cherokee days, we were taught to keep at man spd in bad turb. I was watching my g meter and it wasnt moving nuch. Whaddaya think? Charlie heathco
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: flying wide open in turb. Reply with quote

I think that G-meter movement was well damped and may not have indicated the true peak G-loads.

Tracy Crook
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[quote] I was out yesterday checking on something (6a) and turb mod to above moderate. I took her up to 180smh and she was kicking pretty hard. I slowed her but I think she is built to take it better than I am, In my Cherokee days, we were taught to keep at man spd in bad turb. I was watching my g meter and it wasnt moving nuch. Whaddaya think? Charlie heathco
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:53 am    Post subject: flying wide open in turb. Reply with quote

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"Whaddaya think?"
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About what Charlie? What would you like us to comment on? Your broken G-meter? Whether or not you should remove the wings and inspect? What would you like to know or for us to comment on?

Mike
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I was out yesterday checking on something (6a) and turb mod to above moderate. I took her up to 180smh and she was kicking pretty hard. I slowed her but I think she is built to take it better than I am, In my Cherokee days, we were taught to keep at man spd in bad turb. I was watching my g meter and it wasnt moving nuch. Whaddaya think? Charlie heathco


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: flying wide open in turb. Reply with quote

I have a question Mike, et al. If someone were unwise enough to fly
above maneuvering speed in moderate turbulence, and they thought there
may have been some damage, how would you go about inspecting the main
spar for damage? Other than if they are still straight, are there
any tests for aluminum that could check for damage? I don't recall
any, so was just wondering. Not that I ever want to really need to
find out. . . . :-0

Steve

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Mike
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: flying wide open in turb. Reply with quote

In the 6 that would be hard to do.
My 2 cents would be that without visible deformation, there would be no need to inspect the wing from the root outboard.
>From the wing root to the inboard spar abutment, one could look at rivet deformation, bolt deformation, and spar laminates for clues.
Mike



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I have a question Mike, et al. If someone were unwise enough to fly
above maneuvering speed in moderate turbulence, and they thought there
may have been some damage, how would you go about inspecting the main
spar for damage? Other than if they are still straight, are there
any tests for aluminum that could check for damage? I don't recall
any, so was just wondering. Not that I ever want to really need to
find out. . . . :-0

Steve

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> "Whaddaya think?"
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> About what Charlie? What would you like us to comment on? Your broken
> G-meter? Whether or not you should remove the wings and inspect? What would
> you like to know or for us to comment on?
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> Mike
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: flying wide open in turb. Reply with quote

From past reading, a really good sign is wrinkles in the skin. I would also call Van's to see at what G load the wing will bend and stay bent. I beleive at 7~8 G's things start getting serious.


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