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schrick(at)pacbell.net
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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T delivery (bad list reply) |
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This sounds like an email pirate that starts BS on blogs......I have never seen a G M post before.
This could be true what is being said but Dennis can only do his best against what Lutaris tells him. The only way to solve a situation like this is to refund the money and Lutarus to return the money back to Dennis. Dennis is the middle man and can only do so much. The bad thing is Dennis is responcible for the US customers that have the contracts with him.
I have delt with Dennis over the past 8 years and he is very much a stand up individual and loves these aircraft enough to do this full work time. The problem is that we dealers have to deal with people in old Russia that may not have the same scuples and feelings about justice here in the USA. This is the problem.
I am very sorry this individual feels this way about Dennis but to threaten ones well being is not the way to go. I would stand next to Dennis if this would happen and that individual better be a big MF because he will have to go through me. (as you all know me and my size)
Lets get back to positive YAK conversations gentlemen and let them work this out off list.
Semper Fi (back)
SHREK
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brian-1927(at)lloyd.com
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T delivery (bad list reply) |
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On Mar 25, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Mark Schrick wrote:
| Quote: | This sounds like an email pirate that starts BS on blogs......I have
never seen a G M post before.
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They are called trolls. you need to ignore them.
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jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T delivery (bad list reply) |
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This is indeed a typical spoofer: the message did probably not pass thru the
list, but was addressed directly. I also got it straight into my inbox,
unfiltered where I normally filter all the matronics messages to a separate
folder.
This is not difficult to do: just watch who is active on the list. Spoofing
means that you tinker with the sender's address. Very easy (just as with
ordinary mail: if you send a letter to someone, you can also easily put the
address of someone else on the envelope).
But it seems to me that this spoofer wants to create havoc in the Yak / CJ
world. Some time ago there were also some very insulting messages from a
person that wanted to stay anonymous.
Jan
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dougsappllc(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T delivery (bad list reply) |
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Gang, have been away for a day or two so could not respond to this in a timely manner. I'm playing catch up now and really don't have much time for this kind of crap, but since I do know the situation here I'll respond. Having dealt with this Liutauras fellow in the past myself I have more than a bit of insite as to his "methods of operation". Mark is 100% correct Dennis is the middle man in this situation and does have a responsibility to his US customers, but folks, I have been in this game for over 20 years, I have seen many buyers and sellers come and go, I have had my mods knocked off by some, stiffed by bad checks and big promises by others, out and out lied to my many. BUT, Dennis Saverese is NOT one of them, he is a stand up guy who will bust his butt to keep you flying. He has always been 100% honest with me and I have full confidence in him. When I was having problems getting my shipment from Mr. Luitauras, Dennis helped me, by putting pressure on him to ship, which he ultimately did, albeit 2 years late, but I finally got my merchandise, thanks mainly to Dennis's efforts on my behalf. I have no idea who this joker is who posted this message but I think everyone reading the list understands that the word of a coward who wont even sign his name isn't worth much. I didn't know there were Marine cowards..
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Mark Schrick <schrick(at)pacbell.net (schrick(at)pacbell.net)> wrote:
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This sounds like an email pirate that starts BS on blogs......I have never seen a G M post before.
This could be true what is being said but Dennis can only do his best against what Lutaris tells him. The only way to solve a situation like this is to refund the money and Lutarus to return the money back to Dennis. Dennis is the middle man and can only do so much. The bad thing is Dennis is responcible for the US customers that have the contracts with him.
I have delt with Dennis over the past 8 years and he is very much a stand up individual and loves these aircraft enough to do this full work time. The problem is that we dealers have to deal with people in old Russia that may not have the same scuples and feelings about justice here in the USA. This is the problem.
I am very sorry this individual feels this way about Dennis but to threaten ones well being is not the way to go. I would stand next to Dennis if this would happen and that individual better be a big MF because he will have to go through me. (as you all know me and my size)
Lets get back to positive YAK conversations gentlemen and let them work this out off list.
Semper Fi (back)
SHREK
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adsavarese(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T delivery (bad list reply) |
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Thanks Doug. Your comments are most definitely appreciated.
Dennis
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