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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

Do any of you know if the rotary engine would qualify for sport pilots
regarding the limitation to "reciprocating engines"?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

I have little doubt they would. The "reciprocating engines" limitation is there to block turbine engines.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

So, what does that mean for this install?

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http://www.zenithair.com/bldr/images/6engine/turbine/top-r.jpg


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I have little doubt they would. The "reciprocating engines" limitation is there to block turbine engines.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

No sports pilots can fly it. Jerry DO NOT ARCHIVE

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So, what does that mean for this install?

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I have little doubt they would. The "reciprocating engines" limitation is there to block turbine engines.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

Now, That is KOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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-- "James E. Lanier" <jim.lanier(at)charter.net> wrote:
So, what does that mean for this install?

(see link)

http://www.zenithair.com/bldr/images/6engine/turbine/top-r.jpg
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I have little doubt they would. The "reciprocating engines" limitation is there to block turbine engines.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

http://www.zenithair.com/misc/turbine-power.html

"No sports pilots can fly it. Jerry"

Question: If a sport pilot can't fly it...who can? I guess I don't know
my regulations very well.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

Sport Pilot rule says "including Rotary and Diesel engines"....

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

I think so too. Here is a link to more info.

http://www.zenithair.com/misc/turbine-power.html

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Now, That is KOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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-- "James E. Lanier" <jim.lanier(at)charter.net> wrote:
So, what does that mean for this install?

(see link)

http://www.zenithair.com/bldr/images/6engine/turbine/top-r.jpg
Gig Giacona wrote:

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> I have little doubt they would. The "reciprocating engines" limitation is there to block turbine engines.
> reinkings(at)comcast.net wrote:
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>> Do any of you know if the rotary engine would qualify for sport pilots
>> regarding the limitation to "reciprocating engines"?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 08:11:31PM -0400, James E. Lanier wrote:
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http://www.zenithair.com/misc/turbine-power.html
"No sports pilots can fly it. Jerry"
Question: If a sport pilot can't fly it...who can? I guess I don't know
my regulations very well.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

OK thanks. .I am a private pilot. Where can I find the sport pilot regs?
Do you have a link?

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Jim

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On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 08:11:31PM -0400, James E. Lanier wrote:

> http://www.zenithair.com/misc/turbine-power.html
> "No sports pilots can fly it. Jerry"
> Question: If a sport pilot can't fly it...who can? I guess I don't know
> my regulations very well.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

www.sportpilot.org

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

At 12:10 AM 3/30/2008, you wrote:
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OK thanks. .I am a private pilot. Where can I find the sport pilot regs? Do you have a link?


Hi Jim,

In this case, the important part of the FARs is not about the sport pilot certificate, but the definition of a Light-Sport airplane. Here is a pasted copy of the relevant portion of FAR 1.1 Definitions:
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Light-sport aircraft means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or powered-lift that, since its original certification, has continued to meet the following:

(1) A maximum takeoff weight of not more than­

(i) 1,320 pounds (600 kilograms) for aircraft not intended for operation on water; or

(ii) 1,430 pounds (650 kilograms) for an aircraft intended for operation on water.

(2) A maximum airspeed in level flight with maximum continuous power (VH) of not more than 120 knots CAS under standard atmospheric conditions at sea level.

(3) A maximum never-exceed speed (VNE) of not more than 120 knots CAS for a glider.

(4) A maximum stalling speed or minimum steady flight speed without the use of lift-enhancing devices (VS1) of not more than 45 knots CAS at the aircraft's maximum certificated takeoff weight and most critical center of gravity.

(5) A maximum seating capacity of no more than two persons, including the pilot.

(6) A single, reciprocating engine, if powered.

(7) A fixed or ground-adjustable propeller if a powered aircraft other than a powered glider.

(Cool A fixed or autofeathering propeller system if a powered glider.

(9) A fixed-pitch, semi-rigid, teetering, two-blade rotor system, if a gyroplane.

(10) A nonpressurized cabin, if equipped with a cabin.

(11) Fixed landing gear, except for an aircraft intended for operation on water or a glider.

(12) Fixed or retractable landing gear, or a hull, for an aircraft intended for operation on water.

(13) Fixed or retractable landing gear for a glider.
___________


For this engine discussion, I believe a rotary engine can be lumped into the class of reciprocating engines (item 6 above) but any turbine engine would not fit.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: SPORT PILOT / ROTARY ENGINE QUESTION Reply with quote

Please go to the EAA website and get the straight scoop. The EAA has been in driving force behind the LSA since conception..


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