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Sbennett3(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

Travis, My friend Luis and I are flying down fron NC/SC in our  4-1200's on 4/8. We'll also be camping in the ultalight side.  Steve  Bennett  Durham NC.



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FlyboyTR

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Location: Mobile, Alabama

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

Steve,

Glad to hear it!  Send me a PM is you would like to swap cell numbers.  Look forward to meeting you!



Travis

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temco(at)telusplanet.net
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

Hello Travis



Out of curiosity --- what is the orange thing hanging under the wing visible

in the picture?



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Ted Palamarek

Edmonton Ab

KF IV1200/912ul



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FlyboyTR

Joined: 04 Nov 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Mobile, Alabama

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:25 am Post subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

Ted,

It is a short section of orange noodle with orange ribbon attached (a noodle like you use in a swimming pool).  It is split on one side and slides over the pitot tube.  The pitot tube is in the perfect location to be accidentally walked into.  We carry it when we know the plane will be parked where there is the potential for folks to stroll by!  I have added another pictures that shows it a little better.



Better safe than sorry!



Travis

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Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
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ADI-II Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
www.enotam.net (My Flying Info Website)

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

Leaving here (Mich) Sat or Sun, 5th or 6th, camping in Homebuilt.



Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual

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On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:42 AM, FlyboyTR wrote:



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 Update on our SNF plans.  We will depart Mobile, AL Thursday  

 afternoon 4/10/08, and fly to Quincy, FL (2J9) northwest of  

 Tallahassee and spend the night. Hotel is about a mile from the  

 airport...not a bad walk!  Depart early Friday morning for the last  

 leg to SNF.



 Again, we will be landing/camping in the UL area.  Just look for  

 "Hotel Vixen!" (picture attached).



 Let's try to get a fix on exactly who is going to be  

 there!  ...Hope we're not alone!



 Travis   



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 Mobile, AL

 Skystar Vixen, N-789DF

 Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop

 IFR with Autopilot

 AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather





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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

Lynn, Travis. others,

  

 I'll be at SNF (working) from Wednesday PM thru Saturday.  If you are in the FAA building please stop by.  I'll be working for them in the ADS-B booth.  Would like to make contact and see some Kifoxes while I'm there.

  

 Later,

  

 Rick Weiss

 Series V Speedster, 912S

 Daytona Beach

 cell: 301-502-8029

  

  

  

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Leaving here (Mich) Sat or Sun, 5th or 6th, camping in Homebuilt. 



Lynn Matteson 

Grass Lake, Michigan 

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200 

flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual 

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On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:42 AM, FlyboyTR wrote: 



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		   --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr(at)bellsouth.net> 

 

 Update on our SNF plans.  We will depart Mobile, AL Thursday   

 afternoon 4/10/08, and fly to Quincy, FL (2J9) northwest of   

 Tallahassee and spend the night. Hotel is about a mile from the   

 airport...not a bad walk!  Depart early Friday morning for the last   

 leg to SNF. 

 

 Again, we will be landing/camping in the UL area.  Just look for   

 "Hotel Vixen!" (picture attached). 

 

 Let's try to get a fix on exactly who is going to be   

 there!  ...Hope we're not alone! 

 

 Travis    

 

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 Travis Rayner 

 Mobile, AL 

 Skystar Vixen, N-789DF 

 Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop 

 IFR with Autopilot 

 AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather 

 

 

 

 

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FlyboyTR

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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

Rick,

I'll keep your cell # handy.  Look forward to meeting you.



Travis

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Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
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FlyboyTR

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Location: Mobile, Alabama

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

I just sent Lynn some info and thought I would post it here as well.  For those first-timers flying into the UL area and camping, this should help give a little more guidance.  ATTACHED!



We now have 3 SNF threads going.  I will bump them to try to keep all the info together.  Sorry for the clutter!



Travis

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Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
ADI-II Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
www.enotam.net (My Flying Info Website)

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

here's the reply I got from someone at SnF:

***************************

Camping from the 7th through the 13th is $100.  If have two people in  

your party, the $260 option is your best bet… otherwise you can  

purchase your camping for a $100 and then however many daily  

registrations you need.  Yes, daily registrations are daily tickets  

to the convention.





                                     Laura Vaughn

                                     Convention Administrator

                                     863-644-2431 X113

                                     863-646-9651 Fax

                                     www.sun-n-fun.org



      April 8 - 13, 2008

*****************************

I suspect that LSA/UL is the same...these people don't give anything  

away. I had asked the question about "convention registration" and  

why they didn't just call it a "gate pass", or "ticket to the  

show"....it sounds like a way to hide the fact that they are charging  

admission to get in for some strange reason, otherwise why not call  

it what it is? and you will notice that there are NO refunds like  

they do at Oshkosh.



Notice that the aircraft camping "in designated areas with limited  

facilities for $25 a night" can you say boonies? : )



I haven't left Michigan yet, and won't until I see the "green" go  

away from Florida on my Pilot My-Cast (shameless name-dropping for my  

newest toy). It looks clear down to western Georgia, but not any  

further. I'm gonna stay high and dry up here until I see some  

improvement. Tampa and Orlando show rain for the next three days, and  

my buddy called a friend in Zephyrhills, and it was raining there.  

We're enjoying the flying up here right now...63° and clear skies.



Travis, why do you suppose they don't make things crystal clear?  

Something to do with IRS reporting and income from this event? Am I  

being paranoid? : )



Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual



On Apr 5, 2008, at 11:16 AM, FlyboyTR wrote:



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 Louis,

 Airplane camping is usually $25 per night.  The fee schedule is not  

 real clear (never has been!)  Sorry...can't provide any more  

 insight! 



 Travis  



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 Mobile, AL

 Skystar Vixen, N-789DF

 Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop

 IFR with Autopilot

 AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather





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FlyboyTR

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Location: Mobile, Alabama

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

I have always thought that SNF was way overpriced, registration & camping.  However, the proceeds help to fund the EAA which helps to protect our right to fly...so I'll just sigh and say........okay.  



I hope the weather does cooperate with us.  Looks fair for our Thursday afternoon departure (overnight in Quincy, FL).  Unless there is some major system/front moving through...a little rain is always expected.



Lynn, hope you are able to make it!



Travis

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Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
ADI-II Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
www.enotam.net (My Flying Info Website)

Fox5flyer
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

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 I have always thought that SNF was way overpriced, registration & camping. 

 However, the proceeds help to fund the EAA which helps to protect our 

 right to fly...so I'll just sigh and say........okay. [Rolling Eyes]


	


Fund the EAA?  Not to be picky, but I don't think Sun'nFun is affiliated 

with the EAA at all.  Then again, I might be wrong on this, or maybe I'm 

misunderstanding your intent, but as I recall, they're independent of the 

EAA and Oshkosh.  Uless it's changed, Oshkosh charges camping for the whole 

week.  However, if you leave early, you get the unused days refunded.



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 I hope the weather does cooperate with us.  Looks fair for our Thursday 

 afternoon departure (overnight in Quincy, FL).  Unless there is some major 

 system/front moving through...a little rain is always expected.


	


Good luck all you guys.  Wish I could go, but I'm in the middle of 

determining if I need a ring job.

Deke Morisse

Mikado Michigan

S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT

"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."

- Joseph Joubert

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

I felt that it was overpriced the first time I went there, and when  

no refund was forthcoming after I stayed half the week (in the  

campground with a small motorhome), I decided to ask why. I called  

the EAA in Oshkosh last year and asked why one EAA activity offered  

camping refunds while the other...Sun 'n' Fun...did not. I was also  

curious as to why the SnF logo in the magazines did not mention the  

EAA. The Public Relations person (forgot his name) for the EAA told  

me that SnF is not actually an EAA-endorsed function. He said that  

they buy their own insurance, have their own lawyers, (hope I'm  

recalling all this correctly), and do all  their own promoting, etc.  

They DO seek EAA members to help out, but it is strictly Florida- 

owned and operated by EAA members, but without the affiliation of the  

EAA itself. If you will look back at some of the pre-2006 (I think)  

windshield sticker logos, you'll see the letters EAA prominently  

featured...but not last year and not this year. Also, this year EAA  

pulled their "sponsorship" for want of the right word, of all the  

major fly-ins....look back at the older magazines and see the EAA- 

sponsored fly-ins at Marysville, Arlington, Hondo, etc., and see the  

EAA in the ads for them. No more. I just read that they don't want to  

be affiliated with the regional fly-ins for reasons of association  

should something bad happen...lawyers must've gotten involved.



I also read that SnF has recently been losing attendance, and I'm  

sure cost has something to do with it, as well as the time of the  

year...weather at this time of year is critical, I'd guess. I know  

it's keeping me away so far.



I hope to make it, Travis, but so far it looks like a few rainy days  

down there, then if I get to leave here, it might be a while getting  

back here. A lot of weather happens in those 2000 miles between here  

and there and back again.  Oh, well, I can always stay home and  

practice short takeoffs. : )



By the way, I wonder how much of the proceeds go back to the EAA in  

Oshkosh? I'm thinking not very much if they've pulled their  

affiliation/sponsorship/ whatever the term is, with SnF. I'd sure  

like to get the real word from someone closer to the top.



Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/480+ hrs/down for annual

On Apr 5, 2008, at 6:03 PM, FlyboyTR wrote:



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 I have always thought that SNF was way overpriced, registration &  

 camping.  However, the proceeds help to fund the EAA which helps to  

 protect our right to fly...so I'll just sigh and say........okay.  

 [Rolling Eyes]



 I hope the weather does cooperate with us.  Looks fair for our  

 Thursday afternoon departure (overnight in Quincy, FL).  Unless  

 there is some major system/front moving through...a little rain is  

 always expected.



 Lynn, hope you are able to make it!



 Travis   



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 Travis Rayner

 Mobile, AL

 Skystar Vixen, N-789DF

 Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop

 ADI-II Autopilot

 AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=175000#175000

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

A "ring job"....?   Deke, don't tell me you're thinking of getting  

married again?



Lynn

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On Apr 5, 2008, at 6:51 PM, fox5flyer wrote:

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 Good luck all you guys.  Wish I could go, but I'm in the middle of  

 determining if I need a ring job.

 Deke Morisse

 Mikado Michigan

 S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT

 "The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but  

 progress."

 - Joseph Joubert

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

FlyboyTR

Joined: 04 Nov 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Mobile, Alabama

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

I may be wrong about the SNF/EAA affiliation.  I know that... way back when... SNF was EAA sponsored.  Until two years ago, we had been away from airplanes for 8-9 years.  A lot of things have changed.



Lynn, what day are you planning on leaving, weather permitting?



Travis

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Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
ADI-II Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
www.enotam.net (My Flying Info Website)

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:08 am Post subject: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

At this point I'm waiting until I see that Florida is no longer  

"green and red" (rain and severe thunderstorms)on the Weather  

Channel. Another cell sitting out in the Gulf, too. Not too much fun  

to fly to lower Georgia and sit and wait. And if I wait too long,  

Michigan will turn "green". I see that Moblie, AL is pretty wet right  

now, eh?



Look at the brochure for the event...no mention of EAA other than the  

discounts for EAA members and Florida Air Museum Memberships, which  

they push at every opportunity. Not even a link to the EAA in their  

list of website links. From what I see and hear, the EAA has backed  

out of the association, or SnF has dropped them.



Lynn



On Apr 5, 2008, at 9:47 PM, FlyboyTR wrote:



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 I may be wrong about the SNF/EAA affiliation.  I know that... way  

 back when... SNF was EAA sponsored.  Until two years ago, we had  

 been away from airplanes for 8-9 years.  A lot of things have changed.



 Lynn, what day are you planning on leaving, weather permitting?



 Travis 



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 Travis Rayner

 Mobile, AL

 Skystar Vixen, N-789DF

 Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop

 ADI-II Autopilot

 AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=175021#175021

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

FlyboyTR

Joined: 04 Nov 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Mobile, Alabama

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2008: What are your plans?

I went back to the SNF site...no mention of EAA...I stand corrected!



The weather looks a bit more promising than it did the end of last week.  Afternoon showers/thunderstorms are the norm...here in Mobile, that is usually a daily occurrence...Florida is about the same.



Hope to see a few folks on Friday at SNF.  Everyone fly safe!



Travis

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Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
ADI-II Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
www.enotam.net (My Flying Info Website)

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