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I just started test flying an X-Air with a 2200 engine the engine starts great idles super but when I really give it a lot of throttle and put the plane in a steep climb it hitches on regular intervals for a while then it will run fine until I start climbing steep or make a steep turn what should I look for to cure this problem ?
as long as I don't jab the throttle or make aggressive maneuvers it runs great
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Does it "hitch" with a constant throttle setting ?
ie, without moving the throttle and just pulling back the stick does it hitch?
SW
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: 2200 engine running question |
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Yes it does
Ellery in Maine
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In a message dated 4/7/2008 9:48:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net writes:
[quote] Does it "hitch" with a constant throttle setting ?
ie, without moving the throttle and just pulling back the stick does it hitch?
SW
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: 2200 engine running question |
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Might check that the butterfly valve isnt going open "too far". Thats what it was on my 2200A.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: 2200 engine running question |
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I will check it in the morning Thanks for the info I hope it will give me the fix I need
Thanks a bunch
Ellery in Maine
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[quote] Might check that the butterfly valve isnt going open "too far". Thats what it was on my 2200A.
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Its always wise to just call Jabiru Pacific in Fresno California.
Jim is extreamly helpful. Tell him Steve Weston, 2200A AND 3300A sent you....
SW
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Could be worth checking the float level also, could be on the low side - Keith
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: 2200 engine running question |
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Thanks again if that doesn't fix my problem I will call him
Ellery in Maine
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In a message dated 4/7/2008 10:52:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net writes:
[quote] Its always wise to just call Jabiru Pacific in Fresno California.
Jim is extreamly helpful. Tell him Steve Weston, 2200A AND 3300A sent you....
SW
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: 2200 engine running question |
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I have already checked that and its not the problem I have ,but Thanks for your reply any info is helpful and worth looking at to get a problem straightened out
Ellery in Maine
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In a message dated 4/7/2008 10:57:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kpickford(at)xtra.co.nz writes:
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Could be worth checking the float level also, could be on the low side - Keith
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From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:27 PM
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: 2200 engine running question
[b] I will check it in the morning Thanks for the info I hope it will give me the fix I need [/b]
[b]Thanks a bunch [/b]
[b]Ellery in Maine[/b]
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In a message dated 4/7/2008 10:15:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net writes:
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Might check that the butterfly valve isnt going open "too far". Thats what it was on my 2200A.
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To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: 2200 engine running question
[b]Yes it does [/b]
[b]Ellery in Maine [/b]
[b]do not archive[/b]
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In a message dated 4/7/2008 9:48:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net (notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net) writes:
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Does it "hitch" with a constant throttle setting ?
ie, without moving the throttle and just pulling back the stick does it hitch?
SW
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To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: 2200 engine running question
[b]I just started test flying an X-Air with a 2200 engine the engine starts great idles super but when I really give it a lot of throttle and put the plane in a steep climb it hitches on regular intervals for a while then it will run fine until I start climbing steep or make a steep turn what should I look for to cure this problem ? [/b]
[b]as long as I don't jab the throttle [/b] [b]or make aggressive maneuvers it runs great [/b]
[b]Ellery in Maine [/b]
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Yep – sounds like a fuel problem , but its worth checking the coil clearance as well.- keith
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: 2200 engine running question |
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When it is hitching, does applying the "choke" help or hinder it? I
finally determined that my recent carb problems were caused by low
float level, and possibly using the very light-sprung float needle.
Mine hitched just after climbout began, and I got it back to the
field, hitching all the way.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/487+ hrs/down for annual
On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:53 PM, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:
[quote] Yes it does
Ellery in Maine
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In a message dated 4/7/2008 9:48:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net writes:
Does it "hitch" with a constant throttle setting ?
ie, without moving the throttle and just pulling back the stick
does it hitch?
SW
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:45 am Post subject: 2200 engine running question |
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Just curious...is this a pusher configuration, or tractor?
It sounds like a fuel level problem to me. Last week I talked to Bing
and the very knowledgeable lady there said that to check fuel level,
lower the bowl and there should be 1/2" of air space from the fuel to
the top of the bowl.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/487+ hrs/down for annual
On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:20 PM, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | I just started test flying an X-Air with a 2200 engine the engine
starts great idles super but when I really give it a lot of
throttle and put the plane in a steep climb it hitches on regular
intervals for a while then it will run fine until I start climbing
steep or make a steep turn what should I look for to cure this
problem ?
as long as I don't jab the throttle or make aggressive maneuvers
it runs great
Ellery in Maine
do not archive
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Well I checked it this morning and that is what I came up with the fuel in the carb bowl was 1/2" inch below the top I adjusted the Float reinstalled the float Bowl and fired up the engine for a minute removed the float bowl and now it is 1/8" from the top and that cured my hitching problem That Problem solved now, Thanks for the info Guys.
I got the test flight on this one finished
NOW I WILL STAND BACK AND THROW ROCKS AT 912 rotax engines
now it was a bit warmer today and the oil temp was able to get to hi oil temp range What are you guys running for oil coolers on your engines this guy I built this plane for didn't want one but now I showed him that it will need one during summer months and do you use oil thermostats in the system?
Ellery in Maine
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In a message dated 4/8/2008 8:41:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lynnmatt(at)jps.net writes:
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When it is hitching, does applying the "choke" help or hinder it? I
finally determined that my recent carb problems were caused by low
float level, and possibly using the very light-sprung float needle.
Mine hitched just after climbout began, and I got it back to the
field, hitching all the way.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/487+ hrs/down for annual
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Lynn Matteson
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You might have a leaking float needle valve. Your fuel shutoff might
not be holding securely, allowing excess fuel to leak into the bowl
just as you lower the bowl to check the amount in there. You would
have to be almost overflowing the bowl to be able to lower the bowl
from the carb, and have 1/8" of fuel below the top...the floats would
account for more volume than this. Something doesn't sound right here.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/487+ hrs/down for annual
On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:47 PM, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:
[quote] Well I checked it this morning and that is what I came up with the
fuel in the carb bowl was 1/2" inch below the top I adjusted the
Float reinstalled the float Bowl and fired up the engine for a
minute removed the float bowl and now it is 1/8" from the top and
that cured my hitching problem That Problem solved now, Thanks
for the info Guys.
I got the test flight on this one finished
NOW I WILL STAND BACK AND THROW ROCKS AT 912 rotax engines
now it was a bit warmer today and the oil temp was able to get to
hi oil temp range What are you guys running for oil coolers on
your engines this guy I built this plane for didn't want one but
now I showed him that it will need one during summer months and do
you use oil thermostats in the system?
Ellery in Maine
do not archive
In a message dated 4/8/2008 8:41:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lynnmatt(at)jps.net writes:
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
When it is hitching, does applying the "choke" help or hinder it? I
finally determined that my recent carb problems were caused by low
float level, and possibly using the very light-sprung float needle.
Mine hitched just after climbout began, and I got it back to the
field, hitching all the way.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/487+ hrs/down for annual
On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:53 PM, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:
> Yes it does
>
> Ellery in Maine
> do not archive
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> In a message dated 4/7/2008 9:48:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net writes:
> Does it "hitch" with a constant throttle setting ?
> ie, without moving the throttle and just pulling back the stick
> does it hitch?
>
> SW
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it did spill a bit when I removed the Bowl ,I will drop the bowl and check it again once in a while but it's not overflowing and running fuel all over everything
Ellery in Maine
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In a message dated 4/8/2008 11:45:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lynnmatt(at)jps.net writes:
[quote]--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
You might have a leaking float needle valve. Your fuel shutoff might
not be holding securely, allowing excess fuel to leak into the bowl
just as you lower the bowl to check the amount in there. You would
have to be almost overflowing the bowl to be able to lower the bowl
from the carb, and have 1/8" of fuel below the top...the floats would
account for more volume than this. Something doesn't sound right here.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/487+ hrs/down for annual
On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:47 PM, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:
[quote] Well I checked it this morning and that is what I came up with the
fuel in the carb bowl was 1/2" inch below the top I adjusted the
Float reinstalled the float Bowl and fired up the engine for a
minute removed the float bowl and now it is 1/8" from the top and
that cured my hitching problem That Problem solved now, Thanks
for the info Guys.
I got the test flight on this one finished
NOW I WILL STAND BACK AND THROW ROCKS AT 912 rotax engines
now it was a bit warmer today and the oil temp was able to get to
hi oil temp range What are you guys running for oil coolers on
your engines this guy I built this plane for didn't want one but
now I showed him that it will need one during summer months and do
you use oil thermostats in the system?
Ellery in Maine
do not archive
In a message dated 4/8/2008 8:41:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lynnmatt(at)jps.net writes:
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
When it is hitching, does applying the "choke" help or hinder it? I
finally determined that my recent carb problems were caused by low
float level, and possibly using the very light-sprung float needle.
Mine hitched just after climbout began, and I got it back to the
field, hitching all the way.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/487+ hrs/down for annual
On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:53 PM, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:
> Yes it does
>
> Ellery in Maine
> do not archive
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> In a message dated 4/7/2008 9:48:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net writes:
> Does it "hitch" with a constant throttle setting ?
> ie, without moving the throttle and just pulling back the stick
> does it hitch?
>
> SW
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