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darinh

Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 327
Location: Utah

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Small Side window?

Noel,



I agree with you on the functionality of the side windows but I have seen a couple of Foxes where the builder has simply covered them over and in my opinion it looks a bit odd.  Besides, to cover this area, seal, prime and paint, you would have much more effort and time into it than simply replacing the windows.  Just my opinion, to each his own.

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Darin Hawkes
Series 7
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: Small Side window?

You're forgetting the windows are sewn in and all the finishing you mention

would have to be done anyway.



Another idea would be to install inspection port rings and attach Plexiglas

to them.  Nice porthole windows reminiscent of the DHC-2 Beaver....nah too

much like work.  Maybe a decal of a window.



Noel



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Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

Rex Hefferan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 147
Location: Olney Springs, Colorado USA "NOT a Kitpig"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: Small Side window?

Noel Loveys wrote:



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		    Maybe a decal of a window.



Noel

  



HA HA HA HA  
	




..made me spit out my coffee!



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SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs

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darinh

Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 327
Location: Utah

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Small Side window?

Noel,



I was referring to retrofitting with the windows from Blue Sky Aviation, not with the sewn-in windows in which case, you're right, there would be much more work than simply covering it over.  With the Blue Sky windows you simply cut out the old fabric and install the window and frame using the supplied brackets...it is really pretty slick.



I like your decal idea...you could get an airbrush artist to paint the window on and show a terrified passenger, green-faced and all.

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Darin Hawkes
Series 7
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah

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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: Small Side window?

All,

My experience with not having the small windows, I had a Model 4 XL that did

not have them, I found myself wishing I did when I was in tight ground taxi

situations around hangers and parked planes as well as when I would fly

formation with other aircraft, found myself leaning forward to cop a peak

around the end of the door window, I am re-building a 5 now and am putting

in as much window as I can, full Lexan doors, full Lexan turtle deck cover

and small windows.

Lloyd C

N Mich.

5 w/912

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: Small Side window?

Nah... I'd just bang something together here on the 'puter and e-mail it to the local decal shop for printing...  That's what I did for my tail logo.   

   

A copy of that logo isat the top left of the picture.  

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Noel  

   

I like your decal idea...you could get an airbrush artist to paint the window on and show a terrified passenger, green-faced and all.  

   

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Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: Small Side window?

At 09:03 AM 4/12/2008, you wrote:

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		  I am re-building a 5 now and am putting

in as much window as I can, full Lexan doors, full Lexan turtle deck cover

and small windows.


	


Lloyd,

         Don't forget to shade the skylight and turtledeck before 

installation. I wish I had.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.



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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:47 am Post subject: Small Side window?

Guy,

Too late, all the glass is in, but just out of curiosity, how did you shade

them? My turtle deck was already shaded but the main windscreen is clear,

door glass is shaded.



Lloyd



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Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: Small Side window?

At 08:44 AM 4/13/2008, you wrote:

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		  Too late, all the glass is in, but just out of curiosity, how did you shade

them? My turtle deck was already shaded but the main windscreen is clear,

door glass is shaded.


	


         Mine isn't, that's why I suggested it. I fly in my own 

little microwave oven. I have to admit it's nice in the winter, 

however. When I replace my window I'll take it to the guys that did 

my car. They put a rather permanent coating on the windows that 

blocked 97% of the UV without blocking much of the light. It works 

and has lasted six years without visible degradation. I don't know 

their process.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

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Deceased K-IV 1200
A glider pilot too.

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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: Small Side window?

Guy,

I hear what you are saying, my 4 had all clear glass, and in the hot weather

here, (right around Oshkosh time) it can be a cooker. What I did on the 4

was to fab door latches that would allow me to either close the door tight

or have it a half inch open, it was just enough to get a nice breeze in the

cockpit without blowing everything around, I plan to install them on the 5

as well, however, they will not keep the UV out.



Lloyd 



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darinh

Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 327
Location: Utah

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Small Side window?

I may be wrong here but I thought that all clear glass (and plexi) filtered out UV, that is why you don't get a sunburn through the glass even thought the sun is beating down on you.  It does not filter the radiant heat though, that is where the microwave effect comes in.  Like I said, I could be wrong but I have never been sunburned through a window and the UV rays are what produce the burn.



Having said this, I wish i would have gone with the "smoked" doors and windscreen because the tint will reduce the temp in the cabin a bit.

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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: Re: Small Side window?

One of the small car windshield shades...the cloth ones with a wire hoop rim...fits perfectly between the tubing and the skylight to block the sun on those hot days.  It is cheap and easy, folds up small and weighs nothing.  I think I bought mine at wall Mart for a couple bucks.  It is very handy and effective if you have to park the plane if the sun for a while too.

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Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
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